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  1. yeah after Sanderson took over, Tuon took a turn for the worse.  I cannot stand her and I wish that she get smacked down big.  I cannot believe that Brandon Sanderson would allow the Seanchan to get away after dissing Rand and the White Tower.  The Seachan did not suffer any repercussions.  I want Seanchan to pay dearly, and I mean, dearly for the actions they have taken.

  2. I always liked Elayne.  Who I could not stand was Tuon and Egwene.  Tuon is so f***ing arrogant that she needs to be taken down several pegs, I mean several and I am getting annoyed with Mat now.  I always liked Mat but his constant deferments to Tuon and unwillingness to stick up for Min after she was manhandled by Deathwatch especially knowing that Min was Rand's girlfriend was sickening and so hypocritical of him.

  3. Edarra on page 319 that "the Seanchan have chained the Wise Ones. Not just the Shaido, who deserve their fate." I cannot recall any event or scenario where Rand's Aiel would have tangle with the Seanchan. The only Aiel that the Seanchan encountered are the Shaido Aiel. So am I correct in surmising that Edarra meant the Shaido Wise Ones only that have been chained?

  4. I keep coming back to the prophesy and that in previous books the prophesy at the end of the book had been fulfilled somewhere in that book.


    So in thinking about the Broken Wolf, I still feel that the strongest fulfillment of that in this book is Jain. I know that there is not any mention of him being called a wolf that I can think of but consider these things.


    His spirit was pretty much broken before meeting up with Mat. He was not anything like Jain Farstrider. He was also considered a DF by the Malkieri, and if it was not true, that could have been something that would make him considered broken.


    And you cannot say that Death has not known him. He was thought to be dead for years. This could make that arguement.


    And the Finn Towers could be the Towers of Midnight.


    As to his fall shaking the men and all that, he was Malkieri and they have gathered for the first time in years. I am assuming that when Mat does tell them what happened as he was asked to do, there might be regret and doubt cast upon his DF status, causing them to be fearful and sorrowful and all that.


    Maybe a bit of a stretch, but it seems to me to be the only plausable explanation from within the book. Itrualde did not fall to the Towers. Nor Perrin or Hopper. So this seems most likely.


    Bash away! :wink::flamingsword:


    How is Jain Farstrider a DF? Why would Malkieri consider him a DF? After all, Olver said Jain Farstrider was one of the greatest heroes ever lived and he exposed Cowin Fairheart's treachery and betrayal of Malkier to the Shadow.



    This is my biggest issue too. The size of the armies isn't such a big deal (except for the Seanchan who apparently have unlimited troops). However the supply situations are completely laughable. Perrin's refugee train at one point numbered 100,000. A camp that size takes a huge amount of food, plus all the other necessities. We don't hear anything about remounts for calvary forces, or how tough it is to find replacement weapons for those broken or lost during combat (especially things like arrows and spears).


    I also have an issue with the numbers that RJ throws at, include Brandon Sanderson. But remember this is fantasy, so eh.


    Anyway back to the point, RJ and BS did touch on the logistics stuff like when Perrin went to So Harbor and when Mat refused to give horses to Joline and there were comments how hard it was to get horses and supplies and stuff. There were also lines and comments about starving refugees and people dying of famine and hunger. So RJ and BS hasn't forgotten about these issues.

  6. Can we have a thread about the Seanchan? I want to talk about Tuon's viewpoint and discuss how her thoughts in ToM is totally incompatible with other Seanchan viewpoints in previous novels. For instance, the Seanchan army was shocked to hear that Suroth planned assassination of Tuon and how the Seanchan people are very devoted to the long life of an Empress and yet in this ToM, Tuon says such thoughts of assassinating the Empress are normal and in fact encouraged. What gives?

  7. I don't get the anger towards Elayne based on her actions. In fact, I blame it on BS and RJ for rehashing the same formula over and over. It gets too repetitive. I like Elayne and the way she thinks in terms of political and social settings. She is gonna be an awesome Queen.

  8. Snap an a'dam around her neck, that will clear it all up.

    that will do much harm then good I think but I would damn like it


    Ditto. She needs a good old style smackdown that would deeply lower her eyes for years so much that even as an empress, whenever she sees Rand or a female channeler, she would lower her eyes and thus, as the embodiment of the Empire, the Empire would lower its eyes for a long time.

  9. Doesn't anyone think that Perrin made a monumental mistake in allowing the Seanchan to chain the Shaido Wise Ones, especially in the light of Aviendha's revelations? It would further allow the Seanchan to learn more about Aiel ways and use those lessons against the Aiel?


    It was just a short sighted move. Yeah it allowed Perrin to get the Shaido Wise Ones off their back but he could have contacted other clans' Wise Ones and use them to capture the Shaido Wise Ones instead of using the Seanchan suldams.


    I strongly pray and sincerely hope that the Seanchan gets a huge smackdown and the Aiel will be the one to deliver it. It is called poetic justice.



    I agree with at least a bit of part one. The Aiel are under no requirement to the Dragon's Peace so, yes, they had every right to declare war on whoever they wished. As far as Shaido go, the prevailing view atm seems to be they aren't true Aiel, they broke the old ways, and so they deserve what they get.


    As far as the Dragon's Peace goes its true it'd not hold forever... but I think, considering Rand's implied influence and strength, and the fact that we only see how the Aiel view the kneeling to Fortuona, that it would have lasted as much as 1000 years, similar to the Ten Nations after the Breaking. And that 1000 years has all the time in the world for the Seanchan to stop what they're doing with damane, to change their ways, and perhaps even have a balance of power begin in which they can't take the rest of the continent.


    The Aiel blew it, discarding the centuries of peace that might have prepared the world for the coming days. I'd be a lot more willing to ignore this fact if the Aiel we saw followed ji'e'toh. But they don't.


    Noa the Aiel didn't blew it. They gave Seanchan every chance to return back Aiel slaves. They even offered peace offerings and gold to purchase those Aiel slaves. What did the Sesnchan do? They parade the Aiel slaves around them as to mock the Aiel and pokIng the eyes, creating blood feuds many times over. It was on the order of several magnitude worse than Laman's Sin. As I'm concerned the Aiel were in the right to fight against the Seanchan.

  11. I was disappointed that Nyn' didn't mention to Egwene that Rand is perfectly sane again.


    He is not. He still has that darkness thing in his brain (shown to us when Nyneave delved into his brain). Until that darkness thing goes, he is still insane. For some reason, the Pattern has given him something to battle that darkness in his brain, that pulsating light. It seems to me that the Creator had, indirectly, intervened in the Pattern by giving him some protection against the darkness thing.

  12. All I know is that I want some cosmic smackdown applied to Seanchan and Tuon, especially her. How dare she think that everybody must bow to the Empress? I sincerely hope that Tuon and her cronies get booted out of Randland with their tails between them and never to come out of that Light-Forsaken land ever again.


    I was so crushed to see the Aiel fall before the Seanchan. Aiel are much definitely better warriors than the Seanchans. I cannot help but feel that RJ has made the plight of Aiel similar to the plight of Native Americans. It seemed as RJ was saying to the Aiel that Aiel must progress and stop holding on to their old ways. They must adapt to the changing world or they will be destroyed by it. Before Avi went to Rhuidhean, she was bemusing about Aiel traditions and Aiel insistence that traditions be kept and how Avi disagree with that aspect saying that only good relevant traditions should be adhered. She also saw and witnessed the changes that Rand wrought upon Aiel with his changes to Rhuidhean and asking to herself whether it would be a good idea to go with the changes or fight them.

  13. So I think we all agree that this is definitive proof the Taim is a DF/new forsaken?

    Um, no? We've known he was a Darkfriend since KOD at the absolute latest, and some think that Egwene's dream is evidence that he is not a new Forsaken. I think it makes little difference whether he's been given that title or not. He is favored over some of the Forsaken who have been punished, sure, but he still answers to Nae'blis like everyone else.


    Remind me Egwene's dream again. I forgot the reference.

  14. Didn't wanna say anything about Caemlyn in the title--too many threads on it--but that's what this thread be about.


    Did anyone else find Olver incredibly creepy? Jason said tragic, I say budding sociopath.





    The letter, though. It started out so boring and escalated as quickly as the news team fight in The Legend of Ron Burgundy.

    Don't get Verin's logic though - Verin has generally been very logical.

    Why insist Mat couldn't open it etc.?

    Why not just say "Wait x days for me in Camelyn, and if I'm not back, open her up and use your judgement on what to do with the info there." It's not like she's asking Mat to do something particularly difficult - just pass on a message. This way she risked exactly what did apparently happen: The Waygate wasn't guarded.


    I suspect that it has to do with the need of Verin to get around her Dark Oaths. If she was to do as you suggested, her Dark Oaths might have prevented her from revealing the secrets she had to reveal. So she had to take a circumspect route to reveal the secret.

  15. When Nakomi made her appearance and after witnessing Aviendha's timetrip, I suspected that she was a DF such as Lanfear or something. But some of the posts here made think otherwise. It could be Verin. What an very interesting scene.

  16. This was personally the most powerful and heart-rending chapter in the entire series that I can recall.


    All of the other stories and plotlines in the book had such intricate lead-ins and development, this was just sort of dumped on the reader in a very forceful and twisted way. I was completely unprepared.


    What a great passage.


    Yes it was!!!! and it pained my heart so much to see the Aiel destroyed if only as a cautionary tale that I simply hate the Seanchan now. I utterly despise them to the core. Rand should have wiped out Ebou Dar with Tuon, Mat's feelings be damned.


    I hope Rand will give Seanchan the humbling they so richly deserved and assign them into oblivion in history. The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that Seanchan Empire is the creation or the works of Ishamael.

  17. Lee was most certainly a great general, and a far better tactician than Grant, who was in turn a much better strategist. I would probably take Lee since he had generally smooth relations with both his subordinates and the very prickly Davis administration, whereas Grant ran into a number of problems with his fellow generals, most notably McClernand and Thomas. Bob is correct; McClellan would have captured Richmond in the Peninsula Campaign had Johnston not been wounded and Lee assigned to the ANV. Anyone who says either of the two isn't a great general doesn't know what he or she is talking about.



    Err.... the Vicksburg campaign shows how great of a tactician Grant was. Lee didn't have smooth relations with the Davis administration. There were accounts where Lee would disregard Davis's orders or requests such as the request to send troops from the ANV to bolster the defenses in the West and to coordinate the strategy of the Confederate against the Union but Lee refused to let go of his troops, if he did, it was too little and/or too late.

  18. Cut Strand, you sound like an apologist for the slavery that existed before the Civil War. Slavery in any form is unacceptable because you are enjoying the fruits of hard labor without his/her consent and without paying fair market value for that fruit of labor. It is a very destructive form of economic system. Slavery in any form is a crime.

  19. Hello everyone. I have been thinking about the 5 great generals in the Wheel of Time series. Davram Bashere, Pedron Niall, Ronan Ituralde, Agelmar and Gareth Bryne. Do you think these could relate to, or be written after the 5 great generals: Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great, Napoleon, Hannibal and Robert E. Lee? Tell me what you think!


    Robert E. Lee was not a great general. That was just a Lost Cause myth. Ulysess Grant was a far better general than Robert Lee. Napoleon got his ass handed to him by Wellington and didn't learn from his mistakes in the early war in which he lost. Hannibal was a great general but got beaten by Scipio who learned from Hannibal and used Hannibal's tactics and adjusted for it and defeated him at the Battle of Zama. If anything to go by, Scipio should be on the list not Hannibal.

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