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  1. You belong to the Yellow Ajah!

     

    Members of the Yellow Ajah focus on Healing, mostly the body with the One Power, but there are also those who seek to heal the mind in mundane ways. Yellows are firm in their belief that the One Power is the best method of Healing, and it is often said that they will try to Heal anything they come across. While Yellows care about the well-being of others, they can often be very arrogant, too self-assured and even flamboyant at times. This is your result in its entirety: Yellow Ajah: 6 Green Ajah: 5 Gray Ajah: 5 White Ajah: 4 Blue Ajah: 2 Red Ajah: 2 Brown Ajah: 2

     

    EDIT: That's odd. Yellow is the last color I would have figured id get. I chose green. I'd def be about battle. But my thinking is that TRUE battle is about offense AND DEFENSE. So sunset yellow came first and green a close second, I'm guessing its about defending those around you and kicking some ass. Guess I'm like a paladin. Although if the test was real id be in the Black Ajah. Odd. How come I view myself as an evil sorcerer when I'm being shown as a good guy and protector. Maybe the doc was right when he put me on Zyprexa for Bipolar I, and mild schizophrenia.

     

    Sakaea, you're with me. You ranked green first, yellow second. I ranked yellow highest, therefore I care about our army, and with grey being third on my list it means ill be a good general. So I proclaim myself leader and General of this new army, the Army of the Ajah Test, and Sakaea, you will be my Battlemaster, and lead the main elite attack unit on the front lines. Well recruit other people who rank the two highest as Yellow/Green as soldiers.

    Well need someone ranked extremely high in white/grey/brown to start identifying roles for other people based on their results and assign those roles. Hell be the Field Operator. We need some thinkers and workers not just soldiers.

    To battle!

  2. You belong to the Yellow Ajah!

     

    Members of the Yellow Ajah focus on Healing, mostly the body with the One Power, but there are also those who seek to heal the mind in mundane ways. Yellows are firm in their belief that the One Power is the best method of Healing, and it is often said that they will try to Heal anything they come across. While Yellows care about the well-being of others, they can often be very arrogant, too self-assured and even flamboyant at times. This is your result in its entirety: Yellow Ajah: 6 Green Ajah: 5 Gray Ajah: 5 White Ajah: 4 Blue Ajah: 2 Red Ajah: 2 Brown Ajah: 2

     

    EDIT: That's odd. Yellow is the last color I would have figured id get. I chose green. I'd def be about battle. But my thinking is that TRUE battle is about offense AND DEFENSE. So sunset yellow came first and green a close second, I'm guessing its about defending those around you and kicking some ass. Guess I'm like a paladin. Although if the test was real id be in the Black Ajah. Odd. How come I view myself as an evil sorcerer when I'm being shown as a good guy and protector. Maybe the doc was right when he put me on Zyprexa for Bipolar I, and mild schizophrenia.

  3. I'll add something of my own that I'm not liking about Book 11, Knife of Dreams. Perhaps it doesnt cover the entire series, but its fresh in my mind having just read it.

     

    I've just read the part where Rand has had his hand blown off by Sermihage. These scenes where two or more powerful characters confront each other, are definately some of my favorites. And it doesnt always have to be actual violence or battle. But many types of confrontations. And given that Jordan describes everything with great patience, and even greater detail, I was surprised, and annoyed, at how short this scene was. Rand and his band of some of the most powerful men and women in the world just march up, and Rand loses his hand "BLOCKING" a fireball. They very easily subdue one of the Forsaken, whom is suppose to be one of the most powerful villains in the world. And this happens while she's assisted by other damane.

     

    Now I can get the part of how Rand would be able to win against her, considering I did just say he was assisted by very powerful allies, but it seemed to short. I was kind of unsatisfied. But then again perhaps Jordan wanted realism, and this was as real as it would have gotten.

     

    But I really dont like the way Rand approaches the scene, and sees "someone" that would fit the description of The Daughter of the Nine Moons, and feels any relief at this at all. Seems to be he'd be much more wary, and if he thought that this could be a trap, and he does think it could be, he'd also be smart enough to know that person could have been anyone. Even if it wasnt just an illusion. It could literally been anyone.

     

    Sermihage, having lived as long as she had, seems like she would have chosen a better or different situation than she did. I dont like that she thought she was gonna be able to take Rand out with one shot if she was fast enough. Even if she had, she should have known she would have died soon after, unless that was her plan. But the Forsaken are selfish, and I dont think she would die for any cause. And I guess she did have her own backup with the sul'damane and damane, but they werent even aware of what was happening really, and were very ineffective.

     

    I guess overall Im just a little letdown by this scene, because I was actually really excited as it was approaching. I mean you know its some sort of trap, because Tuon is still with Mat. And you have Rand, Logain, Nynaeve, and Cadsuane. Just these four could really do some damage, but then you have the others as well. So here are our very powerful heroes marching towards and obvious showdown, and BAM. It happens too fast, and I didnt really like the scenario. Doesnt seem quite characteristic of Sermihage or Rand. I'd have thought they, being wary of a trap, would have at least had some type of shield up against projectiles. And Im assuming the illusion was wavering because of either Rand being tav'ern or because of perhaps some sort of angreal of Cadsuanes'.

     

    It took 5 pages to describe Elayne getting dressed, and having dinner. But it took two paragraphs for what could have been an amazing battle.

     

    The scene where the Darkfriends kidnap Elaybe is cool, and I really like how Vandene manages to put a knife into that one Aes Sedai who betrays them. And the rescue scene was amazing on one side. The people sworn to Elayne slowly moving in on the Black Sisters whilst taking heavy damage from the One Power was a nicely done scene. But then again the way the Windfinders took them out only took one sentence. BAM. And "down goes Fraizer." Asne goes down, and its over in one second, and with VERY LITTLE prose.

     

    I'm not gonna be the one to doubt Jordan's genius, perhaps he does it this way so that we're not inundated with violence. But thats my gripe for tonight.

  4. [sorry i meant the earlier post for you and not hopefire

     

    my current boss is like tanis although she's a woman. I would follow her to hell and back. Rand is not someone you would want to follow willingly. At least that's what i feel. There's nothing engaging, warm, thoughtful, understanding or empathic about him. You say it's realistic but people like tanis also exist in the real world. case in point my boss. when you compare her to my footie captain you see the difference between people who have power in their hands. one abuses it and the other does not.

     

    Yeah I see what you're saying, now. You're saying you want your hero to be a more likable , nice guy. Nothing wrong with that. It's just that, and I think many would agree, the Tanis type Hero is what a hero was for us when we all started reading the genre. He's like the first stepping stone for Heros. Tanis for me, was what a hero should be when I was a teenager. And I'm NOT saying that is your case. In fact it speaks to your own character in life to be able to value a guy like Tanis. And I enjoy books with such heros as well. But I also like the twist on things that Jordan used with Rand. After being so use to the cut and dry hero of the LotRs era, Rand was quite refreshing. And I also found myself, as I grew older, much preferring the realism of inner turmoil that Jordan used with Rand, and his other characters.

     

    My first, FAVORITE Hero was Drizzt Do'urden. He's definately a Tanis-like character. And many of the things I've said about inner turmoil would DEFINATELY apply to Drizzt, but hes just not on the same level as Rand. Rand has much more depth, and is much more believable. I just drifted away from these guys as I kept reading, and as I got older.

     

    But Jordan doesnt leave the Good-Guy Hero element completely out. He still puts those guys in the story as well. I'm quite sure you can find your Tanis Hero amongst at least one of the other characters in the book. Maybe Lan. Maybe not. Galad, Gawayne, etc...

     

    Or maybe its just the harsh realities of life that you live through and learn of as the time passes. The Heros of yesterday just cant cut it for me anymore. The real worlds full of dark, terrible moments in itself. I think you have to live and face things for yourself to truely understand and appreciate a complex character such as Rand.

     

    Then again you also have to consider that I prefer the dark side of the force. And if I was to be cast into The Wheel of Time, I'd more than likely be one of the Forsaken. Not any in particular, just one of those who walked outside The Light.

     

     

     

    Rands likable enough concidering he's walking around in constant pain all the time. I think only in TGS was he calous and unlikable. As for Tanis (no offence) but for me he was sooo boring. Raistlin was my fav in that series.

     

    This^

     

    And Raistlin is the true genius character of the Dragonlance series. He's far more original than the others, which was hard to accomplish given the whole frail wizard sterotype. I'd much prefer to have Raistlin as the Hero of the series than Tanis. Hard considering Raistlin is also the Villain half the time. But still a damn nice character and storyline.

  5. hopefire,

     

    tanis had flaws too and made a number of mistakes throughout his time in the books. But tanis was relatable. whether in his young days or as a leader. You knew understood his decisions and his motives. Even the mistakes he has done you tend to look at sympatheically.

     

    Rand on the other hand reminds me about my old captain in the footie team. You followed him because you had to. Not because you wanted to.

     

    Well answer me this. Who in real life would you say Tanis reminded you of? Do you know anyone in real life that you could so closely relate Tanis's character to as you just did with Rand? I think you actually helped make my point.

     

    Rands character, in my opinion, seems reailistic(given his unrealistic setting). You yourself said you can relate Rand to this former captain of the football team. Thats pretty much what Im saying. He's realistic, and original. Most people wouldnt name the captain of their football team as there first choice for a Hero. But Jordan chose to do so. And brilliantly done.

     

    Also, I dont want you to take anything Im saying as critisism. I completely understand what you're saying. I'm just trying to give you another angle to look at as to why Jordan chose to make Rand the way he did. I think Jordan likes a fundamental realism in his characters, even given the unreal environment they exist in.

     

    I think this is also evident in the many posts in this thread about sexism, gender, etc. I'd dare not refute such claims, but I dont think its as bold as many of you suggest. You guys wouldnt see men and women the way they see each other in the book, yes. But assume you have the Power some of these people do. Not just political power, but TRUE POWER. The ability to be completely omnipotent given 99 percent of your situtions. Add to that, the fact that many of these people also happen to be EXTREMELY attractive, AND in some instances (Aes Sedai, women channelers) UNAGING. Somewhat immortal. I'd wager that if all of you woke up tomorow, in your new over-the-top EXTREMELY fit and attractive bodies, combined with a newfound sense of immortality and unequivical power, you'd all act damn near close to what Jordan has pegged you guys for.

     

    I think the mans a genius, and has this all thought out extremely well.

  6. apart from having a series where the bad guys are just so useless, i have never come across a series in where the main character is just so unlikeable and unrelatable.

     

    may be tanis half eleven spoiled me but rand al thor is a poor poor main character.

     

    Well of course if you like Tanis Half-Elven as a main character, then youre NOT gonna like Rand as a main character. Tanis is the stereotypical "good guy with honor."

     

    But in my opinion, there's way too many "Tanis Half-evlen" characters. You could swap Tanis with Aragorn from LotR.

     

    Its not Rands "likeability", I think it's his originality. I think Rand was a more likeable character in the first half of the books, but as the story progresses, he becomes more "unlikable." And this to me, is also realistic. A man having to go through what he goes through would more than likely succomb to the pressure and develop some very bad character flaws along the way. I'ts brilliant, actually.

     

    But if WoT is the first series you read, then no. Youd want a Tanis Half-Elven definately. But once youve read 15 different books and the main characters all seem too much alike, you welcome Rand. I think its about timing. Timing in the age you are when you read, and the order in which you happen to read certain books.

  7. All great answers. And trying to come to a general consensus wasnt really the point of the thread, and I apologize if I made it sound that way. But we cant really know because we only have descriptions, not pictures. And even then its just opinion.

     

    But just seeing who people would chose, and why, was the real test. You can tell a few things about someone depending on who they would chose, and why they would chose them.

     

    And you cant take sexuality out of these books. Fantasy books can be written for children or teenagers far too often. And fantasy novels are often looked down apon by some people as childish, or child-like. But I like how Jordan makes sexuality a large part of the novels, the story, and interactions between characters. This series is the greatest fantasy series for, in my opinion, the more mature themes which are actually more realisitic of how the stories would play out if they were real. In fact, if this world truely existed the way it does, with men and women weilding such great power, HUGE EGOs and sexuality would indeed come into play.

    We cant take the obvious emphasis placed on sexuality and appearance from the series, therefore I believe its a topic of great importance for any Wheel of Time discussion.

     

    Thanks for the replies, now Im gonna go answer the MALE version of this thread.

  8. My first pick is Berelain, since she isnt on your poll I chose Lanfear(not Cyndane). I've always been a sucker for hot and bat shit crazy.

     

    I couldnt remember Berelain's name for some reason, I did want to put her on the poll.

    And yeah theres no real way to compare them because like someone said, its not an illustrated book, but they are described very well, so its its more a reflecttion on what "TYPE" someone is into.

     

    After Graendal(altho I said Lanfear as Cyndane second) I'm changing my second to Min. There two different types of HOT. But Graendal would be the "one Id like to have a slumber party with(PG 13)." But now that I think about it Min would be the keeper. And you know how the saying goes: Give me a football game on TV, a cold beer, and a woman kneeling in front of me so that I can rest my beer on her head." I'd have that with Min plus she could tell me the outcomes of Football games and I'd make a few bets.

  9. and theres different kinds of "hot" too.

     

    i mean .. theres like "hot compared to the average person" "hot enough to pay money for" "hot but still classy enough to take home to meet your mum" "hot but not enough so to tell your mates about" .. "hot in the 'they're actually so digusting i cant take my eyes off them; kinda way" etc.

     

    what kind of hot are we talkin' about here?

     

    if we're going sheer sexual hotness ... probably graendal

    if we're going most classically beautiful/hot ... probably lanfear

    if we're going hottest that you could stand having a relationship with because they're not totally arrogant or messed in the head ... probably min

    if we're going hottest ogier - probably erith etc

     

    Definately feel free to specify which form of hotness you're choosing your character for. Also like I said, the poll in itself is just for curiosities sake of those main women. Feel free to list anyone.

  10. your list sucks. theres plenty of female characters you've missed... even major ones. :\

     

    Yeah, my list didnt include many of the other women, but this list wasn't suppose to be the only or top choices. I was assuming that many would list someone not on my poll list, but for my curiosity I was wondering out of those that I did list on the poll, who was the hottest.

     

    Also, I didnt specify male or female. Like I said about the poll, I was just curious as to which of the main female characters everyone thought was the hottest. But females are still quite able to choose any male. The topic says whos the Hottest Character. The poll is just a curiosity thing.

     

    EDIT: OK Ive been asked to add CADSUANE to this list. Umm. OK. Didnt expect that one. :)

  11. Keep it PG-13!

     

    I got the idea from the Elayne thread, where someone said she was hot. Figured it deserved a thread of its own.

    So, which character from the Wheel of Time series do you find the HOTTEST?

    Like I said in the other thread, I'd choose Graendal. She's smoking hot, and is described as being a "little fleshy." Which is how I like it. No bony women for me.

    But a VERY close second would be Lanfear when she's ressurected as Cyndane. Can you imagine Lanfear(described as the most beautiful woman in the world at the time of The Breaking) as a subservient lil' doll!? I CAN.

     

    What do you guys/gals think?

    Don't forget that Aran'gar, although female, use to be a man.

  12. In response to many people naming The Count of Monte Cristo as current book read, just read, or best book ever: Anyone else besides myself find the movie adaptation to have been far better than the book? I cant think of many movies that are better than the book. But the movie makes considerable changes to the story, which are splendid. One of my favorite movies ever. Book would be in top 10 list.

     

    As to what Im reading: I've read the first 4 books of Song of Fire and Ice (Game of Thrones series). I read the first half of Game of Thrones MANY MANY MANY years ago, and when I saw it on HBO(I didnt see the title of what I was watching, just flipped it ON) it seemed very familiar. This lead me to love the entire HBO series and to reread the first book and finish the next 3. I havent bought the 5th one because its only in hard back around here and it was like 35 bux and Books a Millions which is too much to spend on a book, Im poor.

     

    Reading Book 11 of WoT, after a many year break from the series.

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