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Sloth

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  1. I either don't agree, don't remember, or didn't mind the bullying. Feel free to pull a few passages from the bookes to prove your point.

     

    The bolded bit is obviously the case as you can't not agree with what is written straight out. She hits, kicks and uses threats to enforce her will all throughout the first part of the story. She clearly felt the need to resort to this as a young Wisdom. It has been by far one of the most talked about aspects of her personality in the fandom. She does change somewhat in the later part of the books and even admits in TGS that her old ways aren't going to work on Rand anymore.

     

    TGS Ch. 32

    How did one handle a creature like the Dragon Reborn? Nynaeve knew that the old Rand was there, within him somewhere. He had simply been beaten and kicked so many times that he'd gone into hiding, letting this harsher version rule. As much as it galled her to admit it, bullying him was just not going to work. But how was she to get him to do what he should, since he was too bullheaded to respond to ordinary prodding?

     

    In my defense, I've only read the series once and it's hard to keep track of every miniscule detail aside from the major plot.

     

    I guess I just didn't mind the bullying. I didn't really view it as bullying which is why I still don't see Nynaeve as the bullying type.

  2. I don't see Nynaeve as the bullying type.

     

    Sorry but is that a joke?

     

    No.

     

    Ok well then you must mean that she isn't that type "now" as of ToM because that is just about all she did for the first three quarters of the story.

     

    I don't agree.. just as most fans wouldn't agree with my sentiments that Perrin and Mat are the most abysmally boring and unlikeable characters in the series.

     

    I agree wholeheartedly about Perrin and I think most fans would as well. The problem with your viewpoint on Nyanaeve is the facts are in the story. You can pull passage after passage of her bullying and browbeating people. It isn't even up for debate.

     

    I either don't agree, don't remember, or didn't mind the bullying. Feel free to pull a few passages from the bookes to prove your point.

  3. I don't see Nynaeve as the bullying type.

     

    Sorry but is that a joke?

     

    No.

     

    Ok well then you must mean that she isn't that type "now" as of ToM because that is just about all she did for the first three quarters of the story.

     

    I don't agree.. just as most fans wouldn't agree with my sentiments that Perrin and Mat are the most abysmally boring and unlikeable characters in the series.

  4. Nynaeve is my favorite character fighting for the light.. so it really annoyed me when Egwene was acting all self righteous and insulted Nynaeve for being "so reckless" in T'A'R when she herself had basically almost got sucked into Gawyn's dream among several other near death experiences that was a direct result of her hypocrisy and arrogance. Oh.. and every other instance of her belittling Nynaeve after realizing that she could.

     

    Might have asked you this before but Nynaeve's bullying never bothered you at all? Not to mention much of the humor around her character is based on her acting in a hypocritical fashion. Does it not just hit as hard because it is played to comedic effect?

     

    I don't see Nynaeve as the bullying type. She has a strong personality and the ability to change, which is why most fans give her the benefit of the doubt. Still, I fell in love with her character since she was first introduced and I couldn't have been happier when it was revealed that she was one of the strongest channeler born in this age. I've never had a problem with her.

     

    Egwene, on the other hand, is just arrogant. One example is the fact that she would take any opportunity she could to put Nynaeve down after that instance I had mentioned earlier. And I bring this up because you seem to be placing Nynaeve on the same level as Egwene.

  5. Nynaeve is my favorite character fighting for the light.. so it really annoyed me when Egwene was acting all self righteous and insulted Nynaeve for being "so reckless" in T'A'R when she herself had basically almost got sucked into Gawyn's dream among several other near death experiences that was a direct result of her hypocrisy and arrogance. Oh.. and every other instance of her belittling Nynaeve after realizing that she could.

     

    I wouldn't mind her ego if she were punished more severely (or at all) for her blatant contradictions and flat out arrogance.

     

    Still, she's just a minor annoyance and I loved the role she played throughout tGS and the book that preceded that. She's not even one of my least favorite characters.

  6. -Egwene's pride, arrogance, self-importance, and self-glorification

    -EVERYTHING about Gawyn

    -Mat

    -Mat's story arcs

    -Perrin

    -Perrin's story arcs

    -Girl Perrin is sleeping with

    -Girl Perrin is sleeping with's story arcs

    -The fact that most of the characters I hate (see above) will survive the LB and that most of the characters I love (Graendal) will not

    -The fact that Rand lost his left hand

    -The fact that Cyndane and Moghedien are mind-trapped (makes them much less interesting)

    -The fact that Semirhage was killed off immediately after finally being introduced

    -That the discovery of Messana's alias (a brown that kept to herself) was greatly downplayed when it could've been amazing

    -All the damn lip licking

    -Book Eleven

    -The hundreds of unnecessarily introduced characters that often leave you saying "who the hell is that again?"

    -That someone as BLAND as Perrin gets more chapters and screen-time than Nynaeve who is interesting

    -That Perrin gets any chapters at all

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