luckers- that does make sense. but he spends most of the other books with mat though :(

and just a side question- a page was torn out of my book, either my 3 yr old or 4 yr old did it haha -- but the page that was torn out is right when mat thom and rand get on bayle's boat. do rand and mat give him the coins moiraine gave them? i vaguely remember something about that but i haven't read tEotW in so long.

yeah but it has mat's eye on the balancing scales which isn't until WAY later... and most of the other viewings she has, are all pretty straight forward (when you know how the books go). Maybe RJ had more of a plan for Thom rather than a tag along character (which is what he seems to become after Whitebridge) but I figured that a lot of foreshadowing was allowed in that scene because he already knew what was going to happen. I just figured I missed something about the juggling fire and white tower. and i guess by agreeing to marry moiraine, the white tower could symbolize his giving in to aes sedai in a way. and the juggling fire might be more symbolic than straight forward.. i dunno :( now i'm more confused....

Apologies if this has already been asked.

Doing my first reread and they just reached Baerlon. Min says her viewing on "the gleeman" is a man, not him, who juggles fire and the white tower. I could make sense out of everyone else except this. What are these for Thom?

You own a dagger necklace that you refer to as your "ebou dari marriage knife" and refuse to take it off.

You see people arguing and ask the person next to you if they think it's a blood feud or not.

When something bad happens, you sigh and say "well the wheel weaves as the wheel wills".

Everybody around doesn't need you to clarify which book you mean when you say "I was reading my book the other day..." because they know it was one of thirteen (or fourteen if you count NS)

When someone makes you angry, you check the knives up your sleeves to make sure they're still there.

You use insults like "woolhead", "sheepherder", and "wetlander"

And also use the phrase "dark one's own luck" when something fortunate happens.

well thats why i like that it doesn't have a back light. it looks like actual paper. my daughter even tried to draw a picture on it haha. and i will never give up real books, but financially its smarter and i guess its saving on cutting down trees or something haha

cindy- i have a kindle and it is a godsend!! i do audio books too but with the amount of books that i own on paper, it is getting quite heavy and i lose copies very easily. the kindle bookmarks everything, you can annotate, download just about anything and it looks like paper --- no back light. it has been the greatest present i have ever received. and it does "text-to-read" but it sounds awful. the new kindle may be able to play audio books though. not 100% sure though

Okay, I'm sorry!!! But ebooks are just books in digital format for ereaders and kindles and what not. and then there are audio books. I'm sorry, I'm a perfectionist and I feel better now. I'm sorry.

The only other books that I've been able to endure on audio book has been the ones that are read by their author. Doing Steve Martin's autobiography and Steve Martin reads it. I also did the Dexter series and Jeff Lindsay reads them all. I did this one book called "The Serial Killer's Club" and I can't remember who the author is, but he read it and I loved it. The Godfather has a different reader of course, but it's been too long for me to remember if it was good or not.

Christopher Moore's "Bite Me!" is something you never want to listen to on audio book. The girl who reads it is the worst reader EVER.

I think I read somewhere that kate and michael got in "trouble" for mispronouncing certain things and changed half way through. i remember talking to someone who ONLY did audio books and every time she said a name, I would say "who!?!? ohh!! nynaeve!" or whomever.

they both changed A LOT (imo) from KoD to GS

i've done a couple other books on audio book and realized that kate and michael actually do a fairly good job with it. there are some readers that are AWFUL.

but yeah, some characters gained irish accents half way through and then half the time elayne will have a british accent .. i think michael kramer does a good loial though.

For the first like... 6 books I think. maybe more, maybe less. the first third of the book was nothingness. it was a catch up from the last book but for a good 200 to 300 pages (for example: rand in tear after callendor.. gahhhh) I remember telling my boyfriend at the time "oh sweet!! its finally to the part of the story when something happens". i understand that some people had to wait for it to come out and so some things are needed to remind what has happened, but that is just way too much of the book to make me happy. it did start to go away though...

BUT the other thing i dislike about the books is the repetition in some descriptions. stone faced. aes sedai agelessness. tugging her braid. looking down at the nub where his left hand used to be. colors swirling EVERY TIME. the repetition drives me crazy. thesaurus people! sanderson uses the word "tempest" WAY too much. i understood in the gathering storm but there's no need for the over use of the word in ToM.

Unfortunately, the only thing that bothers me about the whole trial and all that is that the whitecloaks have killed so many innocent people because they thought they were DF. Killed based on an assumption, which is what Perrin did too kinda. He assumed the WC were going to hurt him since they already hurt wolves. But yeah, that's reaching in court.

she's got alot of passion and unlike that fool perrin, she knows the responsibilities of being a leader. Without her, that wolf idiot would still moaning nabout how he does not want to lead.

 

sorry folks but i hate that guy so bad!! Being the best character in the first three boooks to this pathetic one in the latter part is just like a kick in the nuts

i feel the same, except that i feel like it is all because of faile that perrin's character becomes so unbearable. every time i read "anything for faile" i want to vomit. the character of perrin had so much promise, it's upsetting to see him turn into this. he's the only character of the three main guys that is so very associated with his counter part. min, elayne, aviendha, tuon. they don't define rand and mat the way that faile and perrin do. it's not about perrin helping save the world, its about his horrible relationship. seriously, where did my hugable teddy bear go :(

I think it is more that her character changed perrin from an interesting read, to an annoying one. personality aside, once she's involved perrin gets all weak and she starts whining and being a brat. even from the second the meet on the boat and she's trying to change her name as a hunter for the horn uhg.. perrin was my number one until she came on the scene. where did my big cuddly teddy bear go!?!? and yes, the shaido stuff went on WAY too long. What was it, like two or three books of that story line? gah!

but anyway, she really has mellowed out with Sanderson. Might have something to do with character development and her getting older and all of that, but I think Sanderson did it on purpose. She was just too much.

i like it when she's not being mentioned.

i like the sanderson seems to have mellowed her out and doesn't involve her as much.

and i liked it when she was being tortured by the shaido. that was awesome.