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Finnssss22

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  1. Your belief that certain scenes didn't take place in TAR doesn't mean they didn't. You believe what you want and I'll believe what I want. Only time will tell whose belief was correct.
  2. The X-ray cheat doesn't always work. In ep-3 it's pretty clear Ishamael visited with Perrin in the wagon in TAR and it didn't say TAR then either. Nor did it tell you Nyneave was still inside the Arches the 3rd trip of her testing. There were other instances last season of purposefully not giving something away in the X-ray. Only when it actually gives you some extra knowledge does it matter. You can't infer anything from it when it doesn't.
  3. I have a feeling Mat blowing the Horn will be what they use to trigger his memories/past lives stuff.
  4. Unless the ep8 cold open is LTT giving Sammael his scar while sparring in the AoL and we start getting some early LTT memories/voice. Or Lan steps in. Pretty sure Bayle is the trusted ship captain Ryma mentioned in ep6 Either way, the only thing that really didn't sit right for me was Lan figuring out the tied off weave stuff.
  5. Hey never know, maybe the e8 cold open is in the AoL with LTT and Sammael sparring giving him his scar
  6. I highly doubt that Tea did anything other than put Mat to sleep. Everything after was Ishamael's doing in TAR. One big con on Mat to set up yet another arrow aimed at breaking Rand. Everything Ishy has done this season is to throw as many angles of pain and torment at Rand through his friends. Just like everything Ishy did in season 1 was to manipulate Rand into breaking his Seal and fully setting him free.
  7. On another note if you have been watching the preview trailers and following the casting leaks does anyone else think it's possibly Sammael lighting up the Foregate? There was only 2 actors without confirmed roles left for this season. One as a certain blind Sister has now been revealed for tonight but the other... Adrian Bouchet At first I thought maybe for Hawkwing but after seeing someone walking down the Foregate blowing everything up I started think wait a minute...with his blonde hair and build you just add a scar across his face and he could absolutely be Sammael. Yeah I know, it's a shot in the dark but that would be pretty damned cool.
  8. RJ was a huge Tolkien fanboy and had tried unsuccessfully to be approved to write under the LotR license. RJ was more known for writing Horror/Mystery and Conan the Barbarian at that point. Should be very clear how his Horror/Mystery writing background served him quite well throughout this series. Originally books 1-3 were 1 book and he paid a lot of homage in it to Tolkien. It's a good bet that some of it was written with the intention of being in a LotR setting. When the LotR bid was unsuccessful he began shopping it around and that's when TOR came into the picture but they wanted him to break the book into 3 separate novels as well as a some other changes like the cutting of the 4th ta'veren boy Wil al'Seen (I'm pretty sure it was Wil, I may have to doublecheck that as well as whether it was TOR or Harriet that got him to break it into 3 books). *See edit below* Book 4 was when he moved away from the Tolkien influence and really focused on creating something that was his alone. That's why from book 4 onwards everything was tighter, the history got richer and character development ramped up. The mechanics of the One Power became much more defined. What you could or couldn't do with it and its limits became much clearer even contradicting how it was used at times in the first 3 books. At the same time though, I think you're right about book 3 or at least the later half/third of it. I think by the time he was mostly done rewriting the first 3 he knew where he was going for book 4 and had a firmer grasp of the world he was going to create. That translated into the later parts of book 3 being the beginning of that journey into book 4 and beyond. **EDIT: It wasn't Wil, it was Dannil Lewin**
  9. Well damn, I clicked on it thinking I was going to see more about what is surely the cold open involving a blind woman and got this instead...wow, that is interesting.
  10. Yeah, I agree, it's too soon. And after a quick search, Miri was indeed in the books. She is one of the damane killed in Semirhage's attempt to capture Rand.
  11. Or they coulda really gone over the top playing on sheepherders jokes and shown a sheep scurrying away from a camp fire as Rand was buckling his pants up. Let's all just be thankful they didn't go there lol
  12. Absolutely it was superficial but also pretty accurate. The reality is the girls had a lot more building than the boys in the first 3 books, ok 2 1/2 books. I would argue that Mat and Perrin had more character building in the last half of book 3 than Rand had total to that point. Rand had some trials and tribulations up to book 3 but he hadn't really changed much or really accepted that he was the Dragon reborn until early book 3 and then we barely saw him for the rest of the book other than the Darkfriend campfire slaughter. Pretty much the same with Perrin although I would probably say he was the most developed of the 3 by the beginning of the 3rd book but only by a small margin. Mat from the time he woke up from his healing to the end of book 3 was a whirlwind of development for him. Mat literally exploded (fireworks pun intended) off the pages in book 3. Leaps and bounds, he was pretty much a new character really forming IMO the best duo of the series with Thom. You went from being somewhat disinterested in Mat to sitting up more and getting that feeling of anticipation every time you saw 2 dice in the chapter heading. And if the last half of book 3 was Mat's breakout, Book 4 was Rand and Perrin's.
  13. No, Alivia was 414 years old. Reanne Corly of the Kinswomen was around the same when she died. There was talk of another senior Kinswomen pushing 700. Cadsuane is currently the oldest living AS at just a few years short of 300 The average life span of an AS who swore the 3 Oaths on the Oath Rod is between 200-300 depending on power level. The Oath Rod literally cuts their life span in half.
  14. I think Mat is going to follow them and then be the one that sneaks in and helps Rand escape to go help his friends in Falme. Should be interesting regardless.
  15. Fair enough but she invokes a lot more from you than simply wanting her to get punched in her pouty lips lol That you even have to quantify that you think she's faking it and don't believe her is a massive upgrade from the book version.
  16. Yeah for all the willingness to point out the bad, there should also be some acknowledgement to the good. Let's be honest here, the crossing of Lanfear with Semirhage is phenomenal. This version of Lanfear is much nastier and a hell of a lot scarier than either were on their own in the books. I've said this before, this Lanfear scares the shit outa me. Then we have Liandrin who went from being a 2d villain with little depth that as reader you didn't care about at all other than wanting to see her get what was coming to her to being this humanized deep character that you both hate and sympathize with. Of course kudos to both actresses for knocking both these roles out of the park.
  17. I think it's simply that they want Rand as isolated as possible. I don't think their goals with Rand are any different than in books. They want to turn or break him. Ishamael already alluded to this when he asked Lanfear what will happen to Rand when he sees his friends being screwed over. She responded it will break him.
  18. The problem with the boys is for the first 3 books is Mat isn't even supposed to be that likeable and not really even a full character until after his healing in tDR, Perrin is a dear in the headlights and Rand is basically a lost puppy for 1&2 and then a runaway puppy in book 3. Book 4 is when the 3 of them start to branch out and really step into their own shoes. I mean don't get me wrong, I have complaints about the show but I also always had complaints about books 1-3 as well. There's a lot of wonky stuff in books 1-3 that we later just had to file away as early bookisms, never to be discussed again lol. I knew and said going in that the show was going to have to do what they could with books 1-3, eliminate the wonky stuff, build the World, lay out some history and explore the characters enough so everything is ready to ramp up into the book 4 and beyond material because that's when the series really goes next level.
  19. The issue is that you believe Ishamael was trying to win The Last Battle. He wasn't, his goal right from the beginning was to break or turn The Dragon so the Dark One could break the Wheel and Ishamael could be free of the never ending cycle he's in. As for rest of your post...it's obvious you're having some comprehension issues and I'm not going to repeat the points I made again just because you skipped, ignored or are being willfully short-sighted of them the first time. Cheers
  20. Never more evident than with Semirhage who went from being one the greatest healers in the AoL to being the nastiest and most effective interrogators and torturers alive.
  21. Exactly. Nothing Ishamael put into motion was just in the short term. Everything he did had very long-term ramifications. We used to debate and speculate all the time what Ishy was. Was he a dreamer, did he have the foretelling ability, did he remember past lives or was it a combination of 2 or all 3? Personally I always believed he was a Dreamer as I always thought that explanation had the most backing. Not that there wasn't backing for the other options though, just that Dreamer seemed to hold the most. There also isn't enough to completely contradict the other options.
  22. You're kinda missing the point here and being extremely shortsighted. That Ishy is literally the creator of the Seanchan and the reason they exist was the point. What's more is he made sure through his tampering of the K-cycle that when they did return to Randland, they would automatically be in conflict. And even all this was actually secondary to his real objective which was to send away any of Hawkwing's heirs strong enough or capable enough of holding his Empire together after his passing. Then he made sure Hawkwing passed before any of the remaining heirs could amass enough control or influence to hold it together either. The result was the War of the Hundred Years and Randland once again splintered. By the time the Dragon was reborn, there was absolutely zero chance of Randland being an united continent with any real advanced level of technology or knowledge. And let's not forget that making the AS have to swear on the Oath Rod literally cut all their lifespans in half from that point onward. The statement that the villain shoulda just stayed home because the hero overcame all the traps and obstacles he put in place is ridiculous. IT'S QUITE LITERALLY WHAT THE HERO IS SUPPOSED TO DO! Sauron never should've made the Rings in the first place because the One Ring is going to get destroyed and you will be defeated anyway, stay home big fella, don't bother. The Knightking never shoulda bothered making other Whitewalkers or raising an army of undead or crossing the Wall because he was just going to be defeated and killed anyway. Naw dude, just find a nice cave to relax in, it's all good. What do you mean the good guys won and the bad guys lost, that's preposterous, unheard of, a total shocker!!! C'mon now... No offence but you actually sound ridiculous, sorry but you do.
  23. Ishamael was free for about 40 years every 1000. First time was tEotW prologue visiting LTT and temporarily removing his insanity causing the formation of Dragon Mount. Second time was when he organized and ran the Trolloc Wars splintering the Nation's that had been built after the Breaking and raided the White Tower destroying and taking away a ton of history, knowledge and items of power. Third was as Hawkwing's main advisor. He fed Hawkwing's distrust of the AS, convinced him to seige the Tower and planted the idea of them having them have to swear on the Oath Rod. He convinced Hawkwing to send half his army away to what is now Seanchan while also altering/corrupting the copies if the K-cycle they took with them. It is also widely believed Ishamael was responsible for Hawkwing's failing health in the end. Last time was just after Rand was born when he killed the BA sister (name escapes me ATM) responsible for sending out the hunting parties for any child born around when Rand was. Forged Lan's cousin and Rand's uncle into Slayer. Tortured and used Jain Farstrider to set the path for Moiraine and company to go to the Eye. This is why when I see polls about who was the most effective Forsaken I just laugh if Ishy isn't at 100%. Ishamael is quite literally responsible for the way the vast majority of the World is today. It's actually insane and this is only off the top of my head. I'm sure there's more I didn't include.
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