I forgot to mention that in a lot of ways Ishamael being with the Seanchan is actually rather fitting as he is the reason they exist in the first place.

I remember there was a solid theory about Elayne's kids possibly being the Twins Shivan and Calian who are known for heralding in new Ages.

Have we all forgotten about Suian's cold open being extremely adapt at unravelling knots. Is Moiraine stilled or just tied off? Hmmmmm.... Anyway, I enjoyed this episode, solid 8.5 for me, second only to the 9 I give episode 5. The only weak episode for me this season was ep 2.

Oh for sure, I get that, it was definitely a thing in the books. In this particular case, it just feels like it's more than that or less of that depending on how you look at it. We'll see 😉 On another note, isn't it amazing what happens when you take a 2 dimensional villain like Liandrin in the books and humanise them. How much more you're willing to invest in that character. Of course shout out to Fleetwood for absolutely killing it as well.

To be fair, the leaving his friends thing was never their intended path with him, it was a forced situation with the actor. The broken home thing is definitely new. I don't know where you got the he wasn't a thief thing, he absolutely was. If anything went missing in the Two Rivers, Mat was immediately the first suspect and he freaking stole the Dagger in the first place lol The born to a Forsaken thing is obviously unreliable narrator. Ishy thinks Mat is corrupted just like he thinks Perrin will succumb to the Wolf and we both know Perrin fights losing himself to the Wolf for the vast majority of the series. Just because he thinks Mat is corrupted, it doesn't make it true. Mat talks like a coward all the time in the books...no way I'm getting involved in someone else's fight or saving the girls from trouble, not this guy, I'm going the opposite way mark my words, they can get out of it themselves...very next chapter there's Mat not only fighting to save someone's life, he's leading the charge. The reality is the only real changes are his harder home life and the out of the writers hands leaving his friends bit. Anything else is like trying to get water from a stone and more about being a hater than a critic.

Let's also remember, Mat was pretty much an unlikable dick for the first 2 books lol The show not featuring that much of him for the first 2 seasons isn't exactly a stretch from the books.

Semirhage is out, now that we know for sure we have Graendal and Moggy, there was no other clearly female figurine in s1e5, Ishy has already replaced her as Suroth's Truth Speaker, Lanfear is already taking on her cruelty and colour choices. We now have 6 of the 8 figurines identified Ishy Lanfear Moggy (named and there was a figuring with spiderweb designs on dress) Graeny (named and the figurine with clearly big boobs leaves no doubt lol) Asmodean (Figurine with a string instrument) Sammy (Short figurine with a scarred face) 7th is clearly male The last one is the fuzziest and hardest to make out, could be male or female but it's most likely male due to Lanfear's conversation with Ishy. It seems pretty clear she named the females and then grouped all the remaining as the boys. My money for #7 is of course Demandred #8 is a lot tougher to guess and probably easier to guess who it isn't, it's probably not Bath which leaves Be'lal, Aggy or Rahvin.

Good quote lol but like how Rand's mythos is clearly King Arthur, Mat's mythos is clearly Odin, RJ didn't even try and disguise it. Spear, losing an eye, being hung, right down to Odin's Ravens Munin and Hugin (translated to english, Memory and Thought).

I think either it will be Lan fighting HLT not Rand or Rand will win through channeling. If you watched the little teaser for next week, you know why I'm saying it might be Lan instead.

The other thing that occurred to me if I'm wrong about Verin and Liandrin is the possibility that what happened to Verin in the past didn't and it instead plays out now during the show. Her current investigations leads her down that path. It just doesn't make sense to me that Verin is bringing all this heat down on Liandrin if they're playing for the same side and Liandrin was acting on Ishy's orders. Know what i mean?

It wasn't random imo. First off, let me premise this with my belief that Mat is Aemon reborn. That said, I believe the Taint from SL opened Mat up to memories, personality traits and even fighting reflexes from a past life. In this case Aemon. During the healing he was spouting off in the Old Tongue and the first thing that happens when he wakes is his reliving the last battle of the fall of Manetheren through the eyes of who can only be Aemon. He is now 100% fluent in the Old Tongue as evidenced by his trip through the Doorway in Tear. His luck to me was simply just him being free of the SL taint and the first of the 3 to actually accept and actively try to benefit from being Ta'veren. Rand and Perrin by contrast fight against being Ta'veren most of the time until later on where both of them at different times eventually use it to actively direct events around them just like Mat.

Pretty sure Verin is not Black in the show and will be taking the Cadsuane role. I also believe Liandrin will be taking over Verin's "background". When I originally heard that Shohreh Aghdashloo was being cast, I thought for sure she would be Cadsuane but now it's being said that she will actually play Elaida. So unless they're screwing with us, I 100% see the Verin/Cads/Lian switcharoo. When Liandrin frees Nyn as she was leaving sealed it for me as this was very akin to Verin's extra help she gave Egwene to hunt the Black Sisters in the books.

I'm now convinced that Verin is taking the Cadsuane role and Liandrin will take over Verin's "Background". Honestly, I'm good with this as both Fleetwood and Syal are absolutely killing it as Liandrin and Verin respectively. Previous to the news this last week and this episode I wouldn't have leaned this way so heavily as I thought for sure the casting of Shohreh Aghdashloo meant her as Cadsuane but now, unless they're screwing with us, it looks like she is actually going to play Elaida, I'm 100% seeing these changes. Liandrin releasing Nyneave as she was leaving is very akin for me to Verin's extra help she gave Egwene to hunt the Black sisters in the books.