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  1. Blood and bloody flaming ashes! I stretched it out as long as I could, but finally finished it last night, and I must say, at this point I'm just sad it's over. Even tho I've been waiting for the end of this story for 15 years, after closing the book after the last page, I find that I will miss the aniticipation of the waiting that came with each new volume. There has never been another series that gave me that much anticipation. Hopefully I can find something new to read...suggestions welcome.

     

    There were parts where I had to just put the book down and walk away for a day. Egwene's last scene was a big one. NEVER saw that coming.

    I'm still digesting a lot of what I've read, but overall I liked the book. It was cut like an action movie, which made it really hard to not want to keep turning pages, to get back the characters/scene that just got cut off, tho at times I thought it jumped back and forth a little TOO much and/or too quickly.

     

    Lots of super awesome Moments of Super Awesomeness. My favorites were Androl, at the Black Tower kicking ass with his gateways after the dream spike was removed, and unleashing lava on the Trolloc army, that image in my head is sooo cool, er, hot maybe.

     

    There were also quite a few moments that made me laugh. I felt like Brandon got the narrative voices of the various main characters a lot better than the previous two books, Mat especially.

     

    I haven't quite decided how to feel yet about Rand's confrontation with the DO, still stewing on that.

     

    Besides a few small quibbles about pacing and character arcs, my only major complaint is Moiraine. She deserved WAY more "screen time", and a POV. I loved Rand's initial reaction to her, but after that nothing really happens. After all the build up of Min's viewings, and Mat saving her, "half the light of the world to SAVE the world?" I'm a little confused about what she did or knew that was so important (did I miss something?), but besides that, there just plain wasn't enough of her in the book. As much as I liked all the action scenes and battles, some of that could have been cut out to include more about Moiraine. To see Rand and the battle from her POV would have been interesting to say the least, after being the one to find our heroes in the beginning.

     

    Alright I'll stop rambling now, I think will listen to the audiobook now. :rolleyes:

  2. I just posted this in the "Typo/Errata" thread, but I need to post it here to:

     

    :ohmy: ARRRG! I downloaded the audiobook, since I usually wait until the paperback is out (to match the rest of my collection) so I don't see the typos on the page, but I just discovered a very frustrating glitch in the audio version of chapter 24: there is a chunk missing!!! The part where Perrin is talking to Hopper after chasing the wolves, it skips ahead to the very end of a fight with Slayer, and I can't even tell how much is missing!!!

     

    I will go to the appropriate spoiler thread for this part of the book to ask this question: WHAT HAPPENED OMG??!! I might need to run to the book store just to read those few pages, if I can find a copy.

  3. :ohmy: ARRRG! I downloaded the audiobook, since I usually wait until the paperback is out (to match the rest of my collection) so I don't see the typos on the page, but I just discovered a very frustrating glitch in the audio version of chapter 24: there is a chunk missing!!! The part where Perrin is talking to Hopper after chasing the wolves, it skips ahead to the very end of a fight with Slayer, and I can't even tell how much is missing!!! I will go to the appropriate spoiler thread for this part of the book to ask this question: WHAT HAPPENED OMG??!! I might need to run to a book store just to read those few pages, if I can find a copy.
  4. Wasn't there also a Ter'Angreal that Aviendha said "grew something" from that stash they recovered in Ebou Dar? What if the "need" originally took them to a similar ter'angreal in the tower and when they added the the stipulation of not the WT it took them to Ebou Dar? This would fit nicely with the Tinkers and our new hippy Rand. The light side does need food considering how Rand "spoiled" it all.

     

    I always thought the ter'angreal that Avi said grew something was a "talisman of growing" that the Ogier used to "grow" Waygates.

  5. Star Wars (the movies) I heard long ago was based on a set of books. The books I heard were 9. Movies; the middle 3 were done first, the first 3 done second, and the last 3 are yet to be made.

    Do not know the actual names of the main books.

     

    No, George Lucas had said at some point that the original story of Star Wars (the first movie made by itself) was loosely base on the plot of some old novel about rescuing a princess from a castle, some medieval setting, but as far as the whole Star Wars thing, that's all from Lucas. I remember reading a little while ago that he said he had imagined that the story would be told in 9 episodes, 3 trilogies, but currently no plan to make the last three sequels. The Star Wars books I was referring to are stuff other authors have expanded on in that fictional universe. Sorry, I'm a bit of geek for Star Wars, but I don't mean to sound condescending or anything like the comic book store guy in the Simpsons. :biggrin:

  6. I have heared people read their weekly grocery list with more enthusiasm then this guy reads WoT.

     

    You should Tweet Sanderson, I'm sure he could convince McMillian Audio to hire whoever does Animaniacs to read the last book..

     

     

    This is One somber chapter out of what? Nearly a Thousand? Kate Reading and Michael Kramer have brought this story to life dozens if not hundreds of times. Listen to more than 20 short minutes.

     

    I agree. I've listened to all of them, and I think they do a great job, without getting too overly dramatic about it (it's not a stage production after all). There are a lot of emotional parts, this is just one somber chapter, portrayed from Perrin's somber POV, (should he be reading that character all cheerfully?) which I'll admit does get tiresome at times, but I've really enjoyed the audiobooks overall.

  7. I forgot to say Galad was really cool though. I'm really starting to like that guy even if he is the epitome of square.

     

    Oh and someone tell :berelain: that it's winter, she doesn't want to have her frozen nipples pierce through those low-cut dresses of hers, does she?

     

    Those frozen nipples are the only thing holding her dress up

     

    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: that's freaking funny.

  8. One thing to consider with Perrin is the actual amount of time in the story line. For us as readers it has been years and years of us reading about his reluctance to accept his role. But to Perrin it has really only been a matter of months, not years, since he has been thrust into this position. Not a very long time to get accustomed to going from a blacksmith's apprentice to a general with people flocking to you for guidance.

     

    Maybe some of the maidens decided it was more efficient in the mud to ride instead of pridefully slogging thru the mud.

  9. Wow there are a lot of good suggestions in here that I haven't read. My wife was telling me about the George RR Martin series, and it sounded like a little too much political intrigue and drama for me, but soooooo many of you seem to like it maybe I'll have to give it a try.

     

    I can't believe only one person mentioned the Dune series. I know some people don't like how weird some of it got (I like it btw), but you've got to admit that whole universe and history is pretty damn epic.

     

    I also was surprised to enjoy the Harry Potter series. I held off until they were all out, and I listened to a really entertaining audiobook version read by Jim Dale rather than reading the books. I thought it was hilarious and better then some of the movies, but maybe reading it wouldn't be as fun since it was a little kiddy, especially to first couple.

     

    The Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson was pretty epic for a trilogy I thought. It's about the colonization of Mars, and the way the culture, technology, politics develop on a different planet, and the ever evolving relationship with Earth. Pretty neat if you are a space geek like me.

     

    Contact by Carl Sagan, for the same geek factor. Just neat to have a scifi novel written by an actual scientist.

     

    I was glad to see Xanth mentioned a few times. Not really my thing now, a little too zany and kiddy, but as a kid that series is what really got me into reading fantasy. Piers Anthony has a few other series that are pretty neat too: Apprentice Adept, Mode, Incarnations of Immortality.

     

    Some of the Star Wars ones are pretty good. I know it's not real high class literature or anything, but it can be entertaining for a scifi fan. In particular, there is a trilogy set shortly after the timeline of Return of the Jedi, by Timothy Zahn, that is really good. It reads like watching one of the movies, real high paced action adventure kinda thing, but with pretty interesting ideas. After those, most of it got carried away and lost my interest.

     

    I'm trying to think of more, but it seems like most of the really good stuff I've read has been mentioned already.

     

    So let me just say, please please please nobody write anymore vampire novels for another 20 years or so, at least. There are enough people on that bandwagon already, it should be breaking down soon.

  10. Where did you get your copies? Did you actually buy them, CD or digital download? or did you get a pirated copy from a torrent or something? cuz the latter might be why, lower quality files to accommodate smaller file size and easier download. I have the audiobooks in digital format, and I noticed a little bit of difference in how there voices sound in TGS, but not quality of sound, and I just attributed that to that fact that it has been quite a few years and their voices have changed, and recording equipment has changed too, especially if you go back and listen to the first ones after the last one. They sound noticeably younger.

  11. I would expect that something much like this will be at the very end of AMoL.

     

    The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Fourth Age by some, an Age yet to come, an Age long past, a wind rose on the slopes of Shayol Ghul. The wind was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings to the turning of the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.

     

    I could not agree more.  As I read this, I knew it was spot on.  Definitely will be this, to the point that I would probably put a tenner on it.

     

    Yeah, I've been expecting that paragraph for a long time. Hopefully a little more detailed version of the wind sequence tho, coming down from Shayol Ghul across the after math of a great battle maybe and on towards some glimmers of hope for the next age.

     

    I'm hoping for one more awesome 4th age historical quote at the end too.

     

    But I'm also wondering if RJ had planned a prologue after the climax of the LB, showing some of the surviving main characters in the aftermath.

     

    What if the story ends with Loial reading the book he wrote about all the events preceding and during TG to future people, as in all RJs books were meant to reflect Loial's writing?

     

    Loial closes his book.

    Rand's grandkids and or kids: "So THAT'S why (grand)dad is a total nutter!"

    THE END.

    I like that idea. Ever since Loial started taking notes I've kinda viewed the series as Loial's historical archive, or RJ as Loial.

  12. To be honest there is nothing really i would have stop them from doing. One thing that did bother me (and still does) is that Rand didn't kill Lanfear at the docks. I've always thought that was just a p#&sy moment on his part. But than again, maybe that's why he started going down the hill after that - that whole event does seem to resonate with me with all its consequences and to be very realistic.

     

    Rand should have at least tried to kill her during the trolloc attack in the Stone in TSR. He had her pinned to a wall with Air, and was in ass-kicking mode filled with the power, but hesitated because she is a women. Chivalry isn't always a good thing.

     

    I'm going thru a re-read now, and just started TSR. That part in the beginning when Berelain comes in to his room in a skimpy little shift trying to seduce him... he so should have gotten his freak on with her. :berelain:

    omg, yes. Everytime I read that scene, I want to yell at him. If it was me, it would have been on like Donkey Kong.

     

    :laugh: Donkey Kong with Lanfear or Berelain :wink:

  13. To be honest there is nothing really i would have stop them from doing. One thing that did bother me (and still does) is that Rand didn't kill Lanfear at the docks. I've always thought that was just a p#&sy moment on his part. But than again, maybe that's why he started going down the hill after that - that whole event does seem to resonate with me with all its consequences and to be very realistic.

     

    Rand should have at least tried to kill her during the trolloc attack in the Stone in TSR. He had her pinned to a wall with Air, and was in ass-kicking mode filled with the power, but hesitated because she is a woman. Chivalry isn't always a good thing.

     

    I'm going thru a re-read now, and just started TSR. That part in the beginning when Berelain comes in to his room in a skimpy little shift trying to seduce him... he so should have gotten his freak on with her. :berelain:

  14. I thought of another possible scenario to fulfill Moiraine's statement that only three may go. Noal dies before they enter the tower. Not sure how, but then they are left out in the middle of nowhere with only two, and then comes Olver who followed in secret as has been suggested, and he will be the third.

     

    As to "half the light of the world to save the world," I saw that as him saving Moiraine, which will save the world. Min said that Rand will fail without her, tho she only thinks it to herself in one of her POVs, and can't bring herself to tell. And one of her earliest viewings of Mat, I think in EotW, she sees an eye on a balance scale, which seems to me to mean some kind of bargain with the Finns, or a wager maybe since it's Mat.

  15. LMAO that's awesome.

     

    Galad: Hey, girls.

     

    Egwene: I hope my skirts are smooth.

     

    Nynaeve: Me too. Smooth skirts are a must in today's world.

     

    Gawyn: Hey, girls.

     

    Egwene: Where's your brother?

     

    Nynaeve: Yeah, where's your brother?

     

    Gawyn: He's out buying more mirrors. I'll be crying under my bed.

  16. ahh, that would be a good misdirection if those three were just killed by blood-knives and that is why they are missing.

     

    i would love to see some more action from the blood-knives. not that I particularly want to see any more AS assassinated, but they are just a really cool idea for bad guys, too cool to only get that one scene in which Suian kills one of them.

  17. I think - and I could be wrong in this - that Rand's world is the 'true' world in the sense that it's the world where the Bore was drilled, so its the world where the Bore was sealed and therefor its the world where the DO is trying to break free. From our world his touch can and has spilled into some or all of the other mirror worlds, twisting them in whatever ways might be appropriate for those worlds. In this vein I'm interpretting the concept that 'if he wins in one world he wins in all worlds' as 'if he wins in this world he will win in all the others'.

     

    May well not be the BUT, as shown by the timing of various revelations, but I'm feeling pretty good about my prediction that Trollocs and other Shadowspawn will be brought into Randland via Portal Stones and account for the overwhelming force they are able to bring to bear. That it's a Portal Stone in the Blight that no one knows about conflicts with my stronger belief that its actually a city no one knows about in the Blight is fine, since that part doesn't have to be true for the theory to bear out.

     

    I pretty much agree with all that. BTW i just wanted to say, "Impressive Bosom", that screen name makes me chuckle. :berelain:

  18. actually it's int he book one we find about trollocs in the waste (the die aiel telling tinker about the Eye).

     

    yeah that's true... i don't remember the circumstances of that story well. wasn't that close to the wasteblight? and not thousands of trollocs appearing by surprise far into the waste like in TSR.

     

    i dont have a book at hand but i'm sure it was inside the waste. but something occurred to me - you are right about the whole waste appearance. how did trollocs attack Rand in the waste? Is there a steading there (and thus the ways)? Just what the hell is going on out there?! MADNESS, CHAOS!!!!...oh, that's right...let the lord of chaos rule?...dry.gif

     

    edit: i meant wasn't that close to the blight? yes in the waste, but up by the blight border, don't remember tho.

  19. actually it's int he book one we find about trollocs in the waste (the die aiel telling tinker about the Eye).

     

    yeah that's true... i don't remember the circumstances of that story well. wasn't that close to the waste? and not thousands of trollocs appearing by surprise far into the waste like in TSR.

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