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  1. Is Nynaeve pregnant during ToM? It would certainly help provide some continuity if Lan's cliffhanger ending goes as Lan expects. [if you have read ToM, you know what I mean. OK, spoilers are allowed, but not required.]


    I don't know the timelines that well, so I defer to the collective wisdom on that count. Two arguments to consider:


    1. Elayne's ability with the power went haywire. Different women respond differently to pregnancy; some get very sick, some don't even notice, with most in between.


    2. Nynaeve should know the signs of pregnancy. She is also very adept at holding one set of rules for others and another set of rules for herself; she could easily dismiss such changes in her own case. She would also probably not want anyone to Delve her. Besides, not all women have regular periods.


    Your thoughts?


    as far as her knowing the signs of pregnancy, i dont think she would want to admit to herself she was pregnant

  2. i personally think that rand will kill the dark one, i always have and im sticking by that no matter what anyone says. i also think that mat will die (saving tuon or something), and that the thing about rj saying that he was planning outriggers of him going to seanchan is bullshit. i think the world will radically change and we cant really say what will happen because we dont know what rj had in stall that he had the ending written since before he started the series, i dont think egwene will stay amrylin, that would actually be just pathetic, she spends the next 300+ years doing paperwork for an organisation that is irrelivant and that everyone hates? thats lame. i used to hope that perrin could go and live quietly in the two rivers, but i dont think he will as of ToM i think he will be lord(king) of the two rivers after caemlyn is destroyed and elaynes authority over him is dissapated.

    i really hope nynaeve and lan can live happily together because they are my two favourite characters but we will see what happens

  3. i dont hate Min, i just think she is useless. as other people said shes is just rands sex toy, and basically just a useless housewife who is nothing without Rand. i see a lot of Min supporters saying she is valuable because she kept Rand sane, RJ could of just substituted her for a flute, or some other hobby that Rand could have to calm him down and keep him sane. i used to just dislike min, but ever since she went behind Rands back to Cadsuane, she is dead to me and i just think she is useless as a character and a person

  4. interesting analysis, i just assumed it meant Moridin, as it grew back as Moridin came back and rose tallest as Moridin is superior to the other forsaken we think. i dissagree with your opinion/wishfull thinking that it represents Cyndane, i think the special thing RJ had in stall for her is that she will defect to the lighside. i think the best candidate for the tallest tower besided Moridin is Demandred, whom you mentioned, for me the biggest mystery in this series is WTF did Demandred getting up to for the DO that he was so happy with? i think based on what we saw of Demandred at Shayoul Ghul (sp?) is LoC he is probably an equally likely contender for the tallest tower along with Moridin, especialloy also as he seems to think that he is the only one allowed to kill Rand, and Moridin backs him up on that, or at least lets him and the other forsaken in that meeting beleive that (if you remember the scene im talking about)

  5. i say - Seanchan- Sen-chaan

    Mydraal- Mid-dri-all

    Moiraine - More-rain

    Cairhien- Care-he-en

    Nynaeve- Ny-neev


    theres heaps i probably pronounce everything wrong but ive been reading these books for nearly 10 years so im not changing now. i like my ways better anyway and i found it really jarring listening to the audiobooks

  6. i couldnt care less about those little typos, or rand embraced saidar errors, they are a result of the book being rushed so we could all read it sooner. and if you look at the early edidtions of all the other books theres errors like what people mentioned, Saidin and Saidar getting mixed up, typos, my copy of The Great Hunt even has Lan sharpening his sword under a tree (even though his sword is power-wrought) an error that was corrected in later editions of The Great Hunt, just like all the errors and typos etc. in ToM will be changed later on. just be grateful we got to get the book as soon as we did

  7. No, this will not happen. These are the final WoT books and everything Brandon has written is considered canon by the Jordan estate. The only changes in future editions of TGS and TofM will be correcting typos and minor continuity errors that weren't caught in the editing process. But there are absolutely no plans to substantially over write what Brandon wrote. I can say that with enough confidence that I don't even feel the need to email Maria to confirm it. Its a ridiculous rumor.


    oh, okay thanks for clearing that up

  8. yeh a bought a really terrible version of it at borders, it was just a small paperback and it had no colour images or anything in it. what exactly is in the proper version? i heard there are some maps and drawings. does anyone know where i could buy the original colour hard back of the guide in Australia? preferably not on the internet but a store?

  9. Sry about double post, but I have another (or perhaps first) simple question which I CANT answer without digging in a book I don't have. Can wielders of the True Power sense one another channeling? From Grendals description, I didn't get the feeling they would. Can anyone see what the Watcher had to say about it?

    Graendal can see the weaves when Moridin channels in front of her.


    And yet, it takes Moghedien awhile to realize what Rand is doing when he escapes the domination bands? What's up with that?


    Assume you meant Semi. Graendal mentions that you can't see True Power weaves unless you also have access to it. At the time Graendal sees Moridin's weaves we know that she has been granted the privilege of using it on a limited basis. At the time that Rand kills Semi with the True Power Semi did not have access to it.


    i thought that there was a quote somewhere that said only the person wielding the true power can feel it in themselves? when i read Graendal sensing Moridins true power weaves i thought it was a mistake

  10. Can Mat's Medallion block both Saidin and Saidar? Or just Saidar.


    Both, we see Halima (Aran'gar) try using saidin on it in Salidar with no effect. But it can only block direct effects (ie: weaves targeted at Mat) whereas indirect effect such as objects thrown with the power or lightning bolts created with the power can still effect him. This condition applies to both saidin and saidar.


    i wonder, can a ball of fire woven with the power hit him? because i know Cyndanes ball of fire unraveled on Alivia using Cadsuanes ter'angreal, but is Mats the same? and it doesnt make much sense to me that a bolt of lightning could hit him but a ball of fire could.

  11. I don't know how anyone can like Nynaeve, she's just a bitch.
    Well, no, it takes a very loose reading of her chapters to come to the conclusion that she's just a bitch, but it is her very "bitchiness" that makes her so entertaining and likable. At least for those people who didn't dislike her before "The Golden Crane," which is a rather telling dynamic, really.


    shes not a bitch, shes awesome. if you had done all the things shes done,(defeated forsaken, black ajah, cleansed the taint, tamed the womens circle as a teenager) youd have that attitude too

  12. awesome thread. Goku would definately win though, he can just teleport around to dodge rands attacks and then just ka-may-a-maya Rands ass. plus goku can fly, and if Goku gets killed, he just goes to that little planet and trains until Krilin and Bulma and the rest find enough dragon balls to bring him back to life. the spirit bomb (as someone mentioned) wouldnt work though, because Rand isnt stupid enough to stand there for two weeks worth of episodes chatting with Goku while he generates the spirit bomb like Freeza did.

  13. i just want to say, after the golden crane chapter in KoD, i was really excited to see Lan in this book, and i was pretty dissapointed. his final words before charging at the trollocs were pretty lame, and i was really hoping Lan would yell out 'for the seven towers' or whatever Malkiers battle cry is, and then everyone else would eco him, that would of been awesome, but as it was i was pretty let down. i hope he gets some awesome action in aMoL

  14. Put me in the camp that thinks the Dragon's Peace (with some changes made by Avi) will be agreed to. Aid will have to be sent to Caemlyn, Lan, the Borderlands, and probably the WT, too.


    Caemlyn. Has 1/2 the Band, the Kin, some WF's, and whatever Elayne left behind. Plus the rebel AS delegation to the BT. I'd assume the rest of the Band would hurry back from Cairhien through a gateway, and that Mat & Mo will arrive as well. If it comes to light that gateways don't work there, and Rand mentions the Dreamspike, and Perrin connects the dots, then I think he AND Rand could also go, with a large part of their forces.


    The Borderlanders will go to reinforce the Borderlands, and to help Lan. As will Nynaeve. I think most of the Aiel will also head north, along with the Wise Ones. Black veils verses red. Plus, whatever happened to Renald Fanwar? They've got to be somewhere.


    That will leave Tear, Illlian, Cairhien, Egwene's force, the Famer's army, and whatever is left of Perrin's forces to deal with the WT attack. I think the remnants of the BT will join them. Also, Egeanin has to save Egwene's bacon.


    After Caemlyn/BT and the WT are secure, the rest of the forces will head to SG or be used to help the Borderland defense, as needed.


    Though I didn't really like the way ToM unfolded, too many jarring oddities and time left unaccounted for, the first 10 chapters of aMoL should be dynamite.

    Why do people keep thinking Mat will go back to Caemlyn? Grady went with Perrin to the FoM. That's where he'll end up with Moiraine and Thom, imo. Others will be left to deal with the invasion of Caemlyn.


    or he will go straight to the white tower to get his horn back, taking advantage of the fact that most of the Aes Sedai are out of the tower at the FoM, plus Tar Valon is on the way there anyway

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