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Entreri

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  1. hehe For some reason I feel like screaming THOOOOR. I think I watched the Thor movie trailer too much.
  2. The most dangerous creature in the series, aside from Shadar Haran and Fain. The T-1000 of WOT. I do think the True Power would have killed it or a massive amount of OP directed at it (Choden Khal type). As stated, Elayne's replicas would be overwhelmed given a strong weave, no doubt Mat medallion has a limit, everything does, with the possible exception of cuendillar (even that breaks).
  3. No, I would clearly put Rand >> Tuon. Fact is, Rand has the Aiel, even in Aviendha's dream, they fought the Seanchan for many many decades to a draw, even without any help from the other Randland armies. The Aiel would have been easily out numbered against the Seanchan forces 10 to 1. Man for man, by far the best armies in the world are the Aiel. Just 4 Aiel clans would have beaten all the combined armies of Randland, only reason they did not was they wanted King Laman. Aiel are the best fighters in the world. The top 500 Aiel >> 500 Warders >> top 500 Seanchan. Lan/by far the best Warder/best blademaster in the series = Rhuarac, according to Moraine. Given this fact, Aiel = Seanchan at least in the short run (decades). I figure the Seanchan superior numbers in the end will win out against just the Aiel. Similar to what happened to Iturlade. If the others had joined the Aiel in the beginning, they would have defeated the Seanchan. Then Rand has the Borderland armies, the Black Tower (soon to be his), Tear, Illian and Perrin's forces. If they were to fight, Seanchan armies would be destroyed, and utterly. Not to mention the DR would be fighting against the Seanchan. The Seanchan have no chance of victory. Fortunately for the hapless Seanchan, the DR has bigger fish to fry. Lastly, the DR is supposed to bind the Daughter of the Nine moons.
  4. Hammer +5, with +5 electrical damage to Shadowspawn. Thor's hammer. It took all the Power of 8 channelers to make this weapon, everything they had. Where as regular Power wrought weapons were created by 1 channeler and it did not take all their Power, as illustrated later by Neald. The ter'angreal idea is interesting. Perrin also feels heat emanating from the hammer, almost like the weapon is alive: "The force of the blow tossed the creature to the side, and--oddly--its skin sizzled and smoked where the hammer had hit. This happened with each blow, as if the touch of Mah'alleinir burned them, though Perrin felt only a comfortable warmth from the hammer". The hammer does massive damage, it appears to 1 shot kill Trollocs and likely Myddraall. That massive hammer is nearly 5 feet in length, imagine him facing against a blademaster, I pity the fool/blademaster. With someone of Perrin's strength he would be able to swing that hammer quickly and the blows would be truly devastating.
  5. Charging Fain with an army would be foolish now, he would infect them all. Need to balefire that sucker from a distance or nuke it from orbit. How about Shadarn Haran vs. Fain? That would be one awesome battle, they take each other out...which clears the way for the DR to confront the DO and reseal.
  6. How much Power can the Dragon or DR manage unaided? It seems to be some crazy amount. The amount of saidin he used during the Cleansing, he could "melt a continent"...When he extended himself using the Choden Khal, he could destroy the world in one blow. "He closed his eyes, drawing in more and more of the power, feeling as he had only TWICE before. Once when he had cleansed saidin. Once when he had created this mountain".
  7. That is the most awesome/epic cover art I seen in any fantasy book!
  8. That is mostly because we've never seen two fades fighting side by side. However, Gawyn beat Sleete and Marlesh at the same time, both of which I'd place above a myrddraal. Remember, he beat them both solidly several times with no losses or injuries as far as I recall. The Fades' speed is problematic though; I'd say no matter how skilled, no man can defeat four myrddraal at once. Lan could beat three Fades for the majority of the fights, but I give him an incredibly small chance to beat four at once and that would only be due to both luck and his amazing swordsmanship being at their absolute peaks. (Note: I'm only saying he could beat the three or four, he could die later from the Thakan'dar blade wounds just as easily) Sleete would be able to defeat 1 Fade, I highly doubt Marlesh could. If Fades were that easy to defeat, essentially most Warders could, then they would not be that feared. Most Warders while great, are not blademaster level. If memory serves me correctly, Rhuarc and about 4 other Aiel confronted 2 Fades...Rhuarc said the 2 Fades could have killed them all, if not for Nynaeve et al and balefire. Rhuarc=Lan, prior to Moraine dying and Lan going to another level (level 99 Warder?). Rhuarc certainly would have killed his Fade, so that left 4 on 1...Thus this implies that Rhuarc could not take on 2 Fades at once, and that even with 4 Aiel on 1 Fade, it was no guarantee of victory. Rhuarc is certainly top tier Aiel fighter, should be able to take on 8-9 soldiers at once, possibly 10. We saw somebody like Gaul unarmed finishing off about 8 armed Whitecloaks (him and Perrin with an axe took out a dozen, and Gaul took out most of them, Perrin was "amazed"). So I would certainly say that the very best Aiel are at or near Lan/Jearom level. Jearom having taking out 10 at once. From the various fights throughout the series, I estimate: 1 Fade = 6 'fearless' soliders 1 average Warder = 3 average soliders, thus taking more than 2 to finish a Fade. 1 average Aiel = at least 2 average soliders, thus taking more than 3 to finish a Fade. We have seen a Fade kill 2 Aiel at once (then Mat finished it off...) There is no way Lan could take on 3, let alone 4, unless he uses a bloodknife ter'angreal, even then he would get cut badly and eventually die from the 'poison' of the Fades sword well before the ter'angreal kills him. Thus, even to take on two Fades at once, Lan would have to be at his peak and be lucky. Given that 2 Fades = 12 soliders and their weapons are so deadly and they are hard to kill/taking many hits. To take on 3 Fades at once, Lan would have to be more than Gawyn lucky. That's an interesting thought. Not all Warders are blademasters, but they are masters of whatever weapon they use. If there is an equivalent to a blademaster rank in the field of archery, for example, then I would think that a Warder whose primary expertise is with bow & arrow, then said Warder would have to be a master of that weapon. I keep going back to what Lord Agelmar said back in the first book. That the Warders are the best. This coming from a guy who has fought the Aiel, as well as various incarnations of Shadowspawn. It would only make sense that every Warder can defeat a Fade, one-on-one. What good would a Warder be if he cannot do that? His main task is to protect his Aes Sedai. The caveat though is that Aes Sedai pick their own Warders, and perhaps not all are good at evaluating a man's abilities. But going back again to what Agelmar said in The Eye of the World, and he said it with confidence, that the Warders were the best. As far as taking on two Fades at once. Let's recall that Lan and Moiraine were in constant danger while searching for the Dragon Reborn. Perhaps Lan has not had to face two Fades alone. I tend to agree with you that it may not be possible for him to take on 3. That seems a stretch. But given that Lan and Moiraine were smart, they probably worked out a system so that he did not have to go into such a situation. Teamwork, when your partner can channel, certainly can make a huge difference. I wonder if there is someone amongst the Warders who is an expert at the Quarterstaff? Best to hit a Myrddraal from a long distance/bows. Perrin's strategy was to take them out with channelers. Most of the Warders are unlikely to have any contact against Shadowspawn, somebody like Lan being the exception. There is no way an average Warder = Myrddraal. While their job is to protect AS, but that does not mean they will succeed against any foe. A Myddraal is beyond the capabilities on an average Warder. Warders are the best fighting group (300-400 of them?) in the world, yes, but they are not that good. Rand for instance killed 2 of them with his bare hands, no way he could ever do that to 2 Fades. So I would say as before, 2 Warders = 1 Myrddraal. There is a large gap in Warder fighting prowess, Lan very likely could have easily defeated 3 average Warders at once, if not 4, no way he could do that same to 3 or 4 Myddraal, or even 2. At the blademaster level, there are probably no more than 10 Warders with that level of skill. In all the world, there are only 100 or so blademasters according to RJ. There could be a couple of Brigitte like Warders, sure, but I am talking about close quarter combat.
  9. You can't compare Lan fighting Fades and Rhuarc fighting Fades for one extremely important reason: Lan fights with a sword, Rhuarc a spear. Against a myrddraal, that spear is extremely inefficient. Lan and Rhuarc may be equals in fighting ability, but the nature of each respective fighting style plays a huge part in this. To be more specific, I mean Lan against 3 Fades would be a 3:5 win ratio whereas Lan against 4 would be a 1:500 ratio. As for surviving his victories against 3 myrdraal? Not likely, I'd say the ratio against 3 and surviving is 3:50 and surviving against 4 at effectively 0. Valid point. The spear is a stabbing weapon and it would take many more hits to take out a Fade. Still, given that nobody has tackled (dare to?) 2 Fades at once in the entire series hints at that being very difficult. According to Iturlade a Fade could take out 12 normal soldiers. I think we have been spoiled due to the fighting prowess of the main characters and most of the 2nd tire ones. With Lan's suicidal attack against the Blight, he may have a chance to face off against 2. Still, I see no way he can ever win against 3.
  10. He should have an epic role. For being the 2nd most powerful Forsaken, he has proven to be disappointment thus far.
  11. That is mostly because we've never seen two fades fighting side by side. However, Gawyn beat Sleete and Marlesh at the same time, both of which I'd place above a myrddraal. Remember, he beat them both solidly several times with no losses or injuries as far as I recall. The Fades' speed is problematic though; I'd say no matter how skilled, no man can defeat four myrddraal at once. Lan could beat three Fades for the majority of the fights, but I give him an incredibly small chance to beat four at once and that would only be due to both luck and his amazing swordsmanship being at their absolute peaks. (Note: I'm only saying he could beat the three or four, he could die later from the Thakan'dar blade wounds just as easily) Sleete would be able to defeat 1 Fade, I highly doubt Marlesh could. If Fades were that easy to defeat, essentially most Warders could, then they would not be that feared. Most Warders while great, are not blademaster level. If memory serves me correctly, Rhuarc and about 4 other Aiel confronted 2 Fades...Rhuarc said the 2 Fades could have killed them all, if not for Nynaeve et al and balefire. Rhuarc=Lan, prior to Moraine dying and Lan going to another level (level 99 Warder?). Rhuarc certainly would have killed his Fade, so that left 4 on 1...Thus this implies that Rhuarc could not take on 2 Fades at once, and that even with 4 Aiel on 1 Fade, it was no guarantee of victory. Rhuarc is certainly top tier Aiel fighter, should be able to take on 8-9 soldiers at once, possibly 10. We saw somebody like Gaul unarmed finishing off about 8 armed Whitecloaks (him and Perrin with an axe took out a dozen, and Gaul took out most of them, Perrin was "amazed"). So I would certainly say that the very best Aiel are at or near Lan/Jearom level. Jearom having taking out 10 at once. From the various fights throughout the series, I estimate: 1 Fade = 6 'fearless' soliders 1 average Warder = 3 average soliders, thus taking more than 2 to finish a Fade. 1 average Aiel = at least 2 average soliders, thus taking more than 3 to finish a Fade. We have seen a Fade kill 2 Aiel at once (then Mat finished it off...) There is no way Lan could take on 3, let alone 4, unless he uses a bloodknife ter'angreal, even then he would get cut badly and eventually die from the 'poison' of the Fades sword well before the ter'angreal kills him. Thus, even to take on two Fades at once, Lan would have to be at his peak and be lucky. Given that 2 Fades = 12 soliders and their weapons are so deadly and they are hard to kill/taking many hits. To take on 3 Fades at once, Lan would have to be more than Gawyn lucky.
  12. Yes, and possibly the greatest female AS ever and certainly the greatest healer of all time. Nynaeve found a new method of healing, healed stilling/severing and madness = greatest healer of all time. Even AoL healers were 2nd rate compared to Nynaeve. I would not be too surprised if she brings someone back from the dead. And she helped the DR to cleanse saidin. Very likely the most skilled weaver among the current AS, likely as skilled as any of the female Forsaken; the 100 weaves to becoming AS, Nynaeve found them easy, Egwene did not, saying they were "very complex". With barely knowing any Weaves, and nowhere near her full potential, she takes out a Forsaken by herself. Even DR needed help for a long time, Nynaeve saved his bacon as well against Rahvin. Fearless, speaks her mind, incredible strength= just above average Forsaken female strength (according to Brandon, Nynaeve is even a little stronger than Semirhage, certainly stronger than Messana and Moghidein).
  13. Did someone say dual wielding? :) That little man with the little stick has no chance against Drizzt, let alone the likes of Entreri.
  14. Hands down Gawyn, that wretched little fool. Mat kicked his butt, too bad Rand did not finish off the fool. As if that weakling could ever beat the DR in a sword fight, maybe he has a zlim chance since Rand lost his hand, but certainly he had no chance before. As said by RJ and BS, Lan > Rand > Galad > Gawyn. I would have liked to see Rand kick Galad's rear end as well. Both of Elayne's brothers are garbage, Gawyn much more so. Hopefully he dies in AmOL, same with Egwene, at the merciful hands of Shadar Haran. All hail SH, the true God, uhh, his right hand that is.
  15. "A Fade would beat a Bloodknife, but the Bloodknife would fair better against a human than the Fade. Still, Gawyn wins, I'd choose him over two fades working in tandem any day and give him a fair chance against three fades." Probably the first part is likely, given that a Fade's stare can stop most men in their tracks and possibly the Fade can see through the shadow and his attacks would not miss the bloodknife. I doubt that any man can take on 2 Fades at once with the possible exception of Lan or Jearom. Nobody would be able to take on 3 at once. Each Fade appears to have the skill of a blademaster, carry's a truly lethal sword (smallest cut with kill without being Healed), plus they can take a lot of punishment (many times that of a human) before dying. We have not seen anyone in the series taking out more than 1 Fade at a time, this includes the likes of Lan, Rhuarc, Gaul, Mat, Rand and Perrin. According to Mat, you have to overwhelm the Fade before it overwhelms you. Iturlade (a blademaster) said that a Fade could take out 12 men. I don't see any bloodknife taking out 12 men at once. Probably 1/2 of that is due to the Fade's stare, freezing men in fear = easy kills. I believe that 3 died taking out the remaining bloodknife in the WT, including a Warder. So upon further consideration, Fade > Bloodknife. Although the Bloodknife would be close behind. Hopefully we see them fighting each other in AmOL. Fade =~ 12 men who are afraid of it or about 6 men who are not Bloodknife =~ 4-5 men What Gawyn did is amazing indeed. Lucky for him the Bloodknife's weapons were not poisonous.
  16. Fail Eugenics, can't stand either one. Egwene, what a terrible arrogant woman. Fail is so annoying. Nynaeve is the best female character.
  17. Interesting. Ishamael has been portrayed throughout the series as the leader and he has the 'logical' reason for going over to the dark side of the force. The only Forsaken who has deciphered the reality of the DO winning. The rest of the Forsaken are petty and clueless in comparison, including Lanfear (spurned lover), Demandred (jealously) etc. Some reasons why Lanfear would rise above Ishamael: Lanfear delivers the DR to the DO - She seems to be setting up a nice little trap for him. The DO uses Ishamael's body to fight the DR and needs another to play Nae'blis - But SH is here... Ishamael betrays the DO - very unlikely due to his convictions, but who knows what effect, if any, Rand's Light is having on him.
  18. Indirect proof of why Lan is the best: The best fighters in the world are who? The Aiel. Generally 1 average Aiel = 3 average soldiers. This is roughly the number that is put out in the series. Who is one of the best fighters among the Aiel, top tier? Rhuarc. According to Moraine, they was no difference between Lan and Rhuarc (before Lan lost Moraine and went another level, beyond Jearom imo). Keep in mind that Jearom took out 10 at once. Fighting prowess of elite Aiel? Example: Gaul. Gaul (unarmed) took out around 8 armed Whitecloaks. Bruce Lee has nothing on Gaul. Perrin and him were fighting 12 Whitecloaks, and Perrin said Gaul took out most of them. Certainly Gaul should be able to take more than 8 at once if he was armed, if not 9-10 (which is the level of Jearom, 10 at once). Perrin was "amazed" at Gaul's fighting prowess. And Lan back then (20 years ago) had some trouble taking out 6 assassins at once. Clearly Lan is far better now than before, otherwise he would not be compared to the best of the Aiel/Rhuarc.
  19. No. Lan is far better now than before with the sword. Most certainly Lan >> Ryne. Lan was quite a bit younger than Ryne and was not a Warder back then, and they were very close in skill already way back. The way Valda handled Galad and from what Morgase said I would put Valda >= Ryne. In the real world fighters peak at around 30-35 years. Lan > Rand, Valda and Ryne are probably all about the same level > Galad > Gawyne > Sleete As for someone saying that the quarterstaff was a superior weapon to the sword overall, that is unlikely, given the history of said weapons. If the quarterstaff was indeed superior, than the armies of the world would have used it in battle instead of mostly sword type weapons.
  20. I like the idea of Taim being a pawn of Demandred's. Given the value that ter'angreal, and only 2 in existence, it is unlikely that Ishamael would hand it over to just anyone. I would say it likely that Ishamael is directing the Trolloc armies. Being the Nae'blis it is probably one of his responsibilities. Demandred may be leading the forces that attacked Seanchan mainland and/or 'new' Aiel. If he is as good as they say, why not all three: Asha'man, army that attacked Seanchan and 'new Aiel'.
  21. Aviendha's kids are amazing: Can channel as kids, presumably 'out of the womb', can channel at the speed of thought (which would make them superior to any channeler ever, given strength), and I presume they would all be of incredible strength. If Avi's kids were in the fight now as adults, they would be owning the Forsaken.
  22. Minus his luck, Mat would get his rear end handed to him by Lan. While Mat is right up there with the elite warriors in terms of abilities with said weapon...Lan is on a league of his own. With Mat's luck, Lan probably trips and falls on his own sword. When Hammar asks the Warder candidates, "Who is the greatest blademaster of all time?" they don't shout "Lan Mandragoran." And Jearom was defeated by a farmer with a quarterstaff. So there is really no reason at all to think that Mat couldn't defeat Lan in single combat. Theyy use entirely different weapons. Wil al'Seen could probably defeat Lan also, if they started the fight standing at least 30 feet apart. Not yet anyway. I wonder if Jearom being defeated by a farmer is real or a folk tale meant as a warning. Either way, this could be when Jearom was young and inexperienced. If Jearom was reborn now, it would have to be as Lan, since it cannot be Gawyn. It is highly unlikely that Mat could defeat Lan in single combat unless his luck factors in greatly, considering that Lan is considerably better than even the DR.
  23. Minus his luck, Mat would get his rear end handed to him by Lan. While Mat is right up there with the elite warriors in terms of abilities with said weapon...Lan is on a league of his own. With Mat's luck, Lan probably trips and falls on his own sword.
  24. Lan is definitely the best blademaster but to say that he would beat another blademaster (Gawyn) in under a minute is a bit of a stretch. The two times I can think of that we get a lengthy description of blademaster vs blademaster fighting is Rand vs Toram and Galad vs Valda. In both of those cases, their elite skill levels kept the fights going for pretty long periods of time as they "danced" with each other. I would think someone as good as Gawyn could last more than a minute. Also, wanted to point out that while fighters peak at 25-35 years old, the Warder bond will keep Lan at peak physical condition for another decade or two so its going to be hard for Galad and Gawyn to catch him any time soon. I believe that RJ said that the bond doesn't lenthen a Warder's life but it does keep them in top physical shape until they die of old age. Look at how quickly Lan took out Toram Riatin who was nearly as good as Rand. Rand > Galad > Gawyn according to RJ an Sanderson. So Lan taking out Gawyn under a minute is not a stretch at all. As for the bond, it grants a Warder greater stamina and physical prowess. There is no way somebody or anybody for that matter will be in top physical shape when they are 50-60 as they were 20-30...unless one wields the OP...then the age process has slowed considered so they are physically not 60 or 100 but more like 20-30. In the real world, a fighter peaks at 30-35 years of age. Gawyn and Galad have close to a decade to peak, however both lack the mental fortitude to reach the top. There is no way they will ever reach Lan's level. The Dragon Reborn would have been another story, certainly. In practical terms, after the Last Battle there will be peace and hardly anybody to fight against.
  25. "Actually between my quote above and the lamp he is only nicked once on the shoulder which caused blood to "trickle" down his arm. He's exhausted but before that he had been fighting three men so who can say what shape he would be in he had only faced two the whole time. Eh doesn't really matter to me that he took out the lamp. Lucky or not it's still quite impressive. Again though I agree that Lan is a better swordsman." I agree that it was incredibly impressive of Gawyn. He has to be at least in the top 10 and I would put in the top 5. However, Lan is in a league of his own above the rest of the blade masters, only man on that level was probably Jearom. "Only reason he was alive was because the three were being careful, wearing him down". After Gawyn's lucky hit, 2 left: "All pretense of wearing him down vanished. They struck at him, weapons flashing amid dark mist. Exhausted, Gawyn took another hit on the shoulder, blood trickling down his arm beneath his coat". "A last, desperate thought occurred to him..."
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