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Not sure why you are voting Sili. Seems to me like he had some foot in mouth disease, and that is what you're nailing him for. Let's see how the rest of toDay progresses. 

 

Dice seems ok for now, but we shall see. 

Lol, that isn't it.

 

I have double standards, so I am mafia, apparently. -_-

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So Sili comes in making reads off intro joke content. That's kind of normal for him I think. He's recognizing that Sooh's vote on Zander was a joke, thinks scum!Sooh struggles to joke at the start of a game. Ok. What makes the Zander thing weird is that the only person who "cleared" Zander was Verbal, and I don't get how he ends up taking Verbal seriously when he recognizes everyone else is joking around.

 

 

 

I didn't read intensively. I saw someone clear Zander, think I saw others agree, so I commented that I was skeptical.

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But the conversation really wasn't unproductive. While I don't agree with Dice's initial reason for sussing Sili, this sort of "I'm going to catch scum out the gate" mentality is pretty typical of his town game at least. (I've never seen his scum game. If I ISO one I could get maybe some new/better read on him.) He really sunk his teeth in when he misunderstood SIli to be saying that Dice cleared Zander, and that's the part I like. He thought he caught Sili in a lie and he pounced on it. Like, he pounced hard. It doesn't strike me as something that a Dice who knows there was a misunderstanding would do. I think his town game is showing up early here.

 

@Shad, I actually agree with you about Dice, but I am waiting to see if it was genuine.

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Sili Quirrels, on 12 Sept 2015 - 9:20 PM, said:

 

dicetosser1, on 12 Sept 2015 - 9:09 PM, said:

 

who said my conclusion is wrong? you come in saying Zanders getting cleared too quick   he basically got cleared for exactly the same reason you cleared sooh in the next sentence.

 

you say its bad one sentence and then do it yourself. Thats definitely talking out both sides of your mouth imo and I dont really see that as a good thing.

 

Even if i do agree that sooh is town based on the same thing you explain later. her tone.

 

But you didnt say that here you just threw out a double standard.

So let's be clear here. If you don't have a double standard, you are clearing Zander for faking tone when he spent the last mafia game showcasing how well he could fake tone?

 

And I am not 'clearing' Sooh so don't even.

 

 

 

But in the purple - Dice caves. He admits he's clearing Zander. Where Dice says "he basically got cleared for exactly the same reason you cleared sooh.."

 

The red is the point of Sili's push on Dice - which given the purple, is now a valid point to make. It's the part where Sili says "you are clearing Zander for faking tone..."

 

And yet Dice takes care to go back and say "I didn't clear Zander anywhere - you're misrepping me Sili."

 

I quoted the massive post where he does that below. In spoiler, so it doesn't kill people's eyes.

 

It's not a misrep at all from Sili after the purple point - it reads to me like Dice is going back to try and cover for his inadvertent admission regarding Zander. And call Sili out for making a bogus point when it really isn't.

 

Ok, I didn't interpret purple that way at all. He said "he got cleared", not "I cleared him", so I thought he was putting words into Verbal's (or whoever he thought cleared Zander)'s mouth, not claiming to have cleared him himself.

 

Red is interesting though.  Why is Sili assuming that Zander is faking his tone?

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Fair'nuff.

 

I feel I should elaborate on my opinion of Dice.

 

He used a lame argument to nudge me. I pointed out it was self-contradictory: he can't not clear Zander for tone, clear Sooh for tone, and yet declare double standards are bad. It demonstrates a lack of critical thought, and he takes himself very seriously.

 

Whether this is in Dice's town meta, I suspect it's at the south-west corner. I am not sure typical Dice goes that fast at someone that easily.

 

The taunting of course, and the vote, that's all clearly in Dice's town meta.

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I didn't really expect Hallia to not take sides, least of all say Dice is as scummy as me.

 

Also, in the case Dice and I are both town, then Hallia's comment can be perceived to be encouraging people to focus on a town pair instead of catching scum.

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I'm trying to take a moment.  Lately I'm very bad at reading Dice.  My gut reads are wrong with him.  He almost always comes across as scum, and I want to make certain I'm not mistaken.

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Every time I go back to think about a proper response, my mind becomes static. I get flashbacks of all those times dice is wrong but plays badly and is simply a nuisance.

 

Therefore, I quit. I'll just evaluate him on his content as the day progresses. No need to interact.

 

[v] Sili [/v]

 

 

 

im quite happy to call Princess Town sili   There are distinct differences in his tone when he is mafia. I haven't seen that yet. Ive just seen the energizer bunny Princess

 

 

keep bailing sili you said reevaluate AFTER your solid declaration. What? realised that you werent leaving yourself an out?

 

 

but you see that vote?? get used to seeing it. Cause its not going anywhere

 

 

@Razen  Is that Zander post what your calling an attempt to justify his vote?\

 

and you might wanna quote the right stuff   the purple you highlighted? thats NOT me calling Zander town  thats me saying sili is whinging because people cleared zander on Tone. Same as he did Sooh. THIS post above is where I call Zander Town. 

 

As for Sili   I dont like that original post  if youre gonna clear Sooh on tone    someone whose tone is not a clear indicator all the time   then you cant NOT clear someone for who tone is indicative in the SAME POST.

 

After that?  he got defensive in tone  started throwing out the passive aggressive vibes along with insults. 1+1+1 = scum

 

I think he's scum.

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As for Sili   I dont like that original post  if youre gonna clear Sooh on tone    someone whose tone is not a clear indicator all the time   then you cant NOT clear someone for who tone is indicative in the SAME POST.

 

-_-

 

1. i didn't do that.

 

2. What drugs have you taken today?

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We've had these discussions before Dice. We both know how it goes. You tunnel me for 2 days, then you unvote, and then you tunnel me at lylo or something, and we lose. The End.

 

I certainly hope you're a wolf this time otherwise, as per normal, your behavior is massively -ev and I lack the uh fortitude to not call you out on it.

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Uh. Ppl clearing zander too fast.

 

Sooh town.

 

 

I speculate Sooh has difficulty faking tone. Therefore her vote of you, which is not serious at all, is a good sign. I will reevaluate later though.

 

tell me again you didnt do that

 

first quote is a statement Sooh is Town

 

The second justifys the read because of her tone.

 

then you leave ureself an escape hatch

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