Pokemon Mafia IV: The Mystery of Heart Island--GAME OVER--TEAM ROCKET WIN

[John Snow]

Here's what I don't buy about Thane's claim. 

 

He thought that mafia was going to target him. Why on earth would they do that?

 

And why on earth would he not ask heart if he could use moves more than once? Especially with a power like doc? That was one of the first questions I asked.

 

 

And, Ley, we have 18 hours left. We still need more info. We're shooting in the dark for reads on over half of the people left in the game. They're not helping at all. 

We need to push these guys for information. 

 

For those of you who aren't helping much, here's what's wrong with it:

When you don't help hunt, you're neither helping find out who's scum nor helping other people read you. It severely limits town's information. 

 

 

Quoted the important one directed at thane

[ReleaseTheEvil]

No counter doc move claim, solid un-cc'ed character claim, plausible mirror move

[John Snow]

Alright. Do you buy a doc would honestly not check to see if he could use his doc more than once?

 

 

And why on earth would he mirror N2? He had no pressure that I can recall.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Alright. Do you buy a doc would honestly not check to see if he could use his doc more than once?

 

 

And why on earth would he mirror N2? He had no pressure that I can recall.

 

What makes you think he doesn't know this?

 

I recall there being pressure on him from Darthe I think? 

[John Snow]

-snip-

Large: Mirror (this has been incorrectly explained by someone else by the way) reflects an ability on the user. A cop viewing someone with mirror gets a result of himself, a kill on a mirror kills himself, etc. It is, at the very least, a much more common role for mafia, and the reason for that is very simple. If a town has a mirror role, then a mafia night kill targeting him would kill a mafia instead, which basically means, that this town player can only die through a mislynch. Which won't happen if said player plays well. So basically, giving a town mirror is giving him bulletproof + kills shooter. Considering this game has no x-shot moves but % moves, it could probably happen more than once, on top of that (though I think mafia won't try again after losing one member). The role would be grossly overpowered on town. Also remember it was his second highest percentage, which means that it was higher than two of his other abilities, which, I think, gives it a low threshold of 60% (going to assume everything is 20, 40, 60, 80 or 100 and that standard is 40 while vig is 20 and some may be higher). I would say that a mirror on town, if it existed, would be 20%, maybe 40%.

-snip-

 

 

Ley's case

[ReleaseTheEvil]

This is the most important question to me: @Mod If we let it go random do we get coroner's report?

[John Snow]

the problem is, i don't know if the powers you can use are one time only, or not. Didn't ask...

 

 

finding that took forever. He phrased it weird and I missed it skimming through the past day. 

[John Snow]

 

Alright. Do you buy a doc would honestly not check to see if he could use his doc more than once?

 

 

And why on earth would he mirror N2? He had no pressure that I can recall.

 

What makes you think he doesn't know this?

 

I recall there being pressure on him from Darthe I think? 

 

 

 

So he mirrored in case the most highly read town player in the game shot him? Townie pro strats. 

[ReleaseTheEvil]

 

 

Alright. Do you buy a doc would honestly not check to see if he could use his doc more than once?

 

 

And why on earth would he mirror N2? He had no pressure that I can recall.

 

What makes you think he doesn't know this?

 

I recall there being pressure on him from Darthe I think? 

 

 

 

So he mirrored in case the most highly read town player in the game shot him? Townie pro strats. 

 

 

If you thought you were town's only doc wouldn't you? 

[ReleaseTheEvil]

 

the problem is, i don't know if the powers you can use are one time only, or not. Didn't ask...

 

 

finding that took forever. He phrased it weird and I missed it skimming through the past day. 

 

 

Weird he didn't ask. This was my first question to AH

[John Snow]

 

 

 

Alright. Do you buy a doc would honestly not check to see if he could use his doc more than once?

 

 

And why on earth would he mirror N2? He had no pressure that I can recall.

 

What makes you think he doesn't know this?

 

I recall there being pressure on him from Darthe I think? 

 

 

 

So he mirrored in case the most highly read town player in the game shot him? Townie pro strats. 

 

 

If you thought you were town's only doc wouldn't you? 

 

 

No. I'd doc myself. Not mirror to kill them. 

 

 

 

 

the problem is, i don't know if the powers you can use are one time only, or not. Didn't ask...

 

 

finding that took forever. He phrased it weird and I missed it skimming through the past day. 

 

 

Weird he didn't ask. This was my first question to AH

 

 

Same. And he has one of the strongest town roles in the game, doc.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

If we get coroner report with random almost willing to let it go random. 

 

If not then I vote Thane. 

[ReleaseTheEvil]

I can feel all of the experienced players wanting to kick my ass for letting it go random though. But all depends on if we get coroner or not. 

[John Snow]

If you're waiting on AH's response, she's offline atm. Based on her other VC's I don't think she'll be on before DL hits, but I'm not sure. I'm always asleep when she does her first VC of the morning. 

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Is Thane still at L-1?

[John Snow]

It's close. She gets on right about at the DL. 

[John Snow]

*shrug* If you'll be up, feel free to wait. And afaicr, only person that's moved their vote has been Thane, so yes.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

 

 

Day 3 Vote Count

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

 

Seph (1) -- RTE,

Thane (5) -- Ley, Mashiara, seph, Zander, John Snow

Ley (1) -- Thane

TMD (1) -- dice

dice (2) -- TMD, BFG

 

 

Not voting: None

 

 

Countdown

 

Thane is at L-1

No majority will result in random lynch.

 

 

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Alright. Do you buy a doc would honestly not check to see if he could use his doc more than once?

 

 

And why on earth would he mirror N2? He had no pressure that I can recall.

 

What makes you think he doesn't know this?

 

I recall there being pressure on him from Darthe I think? 

 

 

 

So he mirrored in case the most highly read town player in the game shot him? Townie pro strats. 

 

 

If you thought you were town's only doc wouldn't you? 

 

 

DARTHE DID NOT SHOOT THANE...this I know!!!

[ReleaseTheEvil]

I'll be here at deadline. I'll wait for her reply.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

 

 

 

 

Alright. Do you buy a doc would honestly not check to see if he could use his doc more than once?

 

 

And why on earth would he mirror N2? He had no pressure that I can recall.

 

What makes you think he doesn't know this?

 

I recall there being pressure on him from Darthe I think? 

 

 

 

So he mirrored in case the most highly read town player in the game shot him? Townie pro strats. 

 

 

If you thought you were town's only doc wouldn't you? 

 

 

DARTHE DID NOT SHOOT THANE...this I know!!!

 

 

Well could have been EP then? 

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Current scum team: TMD, Seph

 

Unsure: Thane, Dice

 

Zander looks town after that post. 

 

If there is 4 I think there is one more hiding

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

Alright. Do you buy a doc would honestly not check to see if he could use his doc more than once?

 

 

And why on earth would he mirror N2? He had no pressure that I can recall.

 

What makes you think he doesn't know this?

 

I recall there being pressure on him from Darthe I think? 

 

 

 

So he mirrored in case the most highly read town player in the game shot him? Townie pro strats. 

 

 

If you thought you were town's only doc wouldn't you? 

 

 

DARTHE DID NOT SHOOT THANE...this I know!!!

 

 

Well could have been EP then? 

 

 

If you believe his claim then yes it could have been....but Im not buying it so Im fine with my vote.

[John Snow]

Zander looks town after coming in and reporting his NA? And not even commenting on the Random VS Lynching the scummy guy debate?

[Zander?]

Zander looks town after coming in and reporting his NA? And not even commenting on the Random VS Lynching the scummy guy debate?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Alright. Do you buy a doc would honestly not check to see if he could use his doc more than once?

 

 

And why on earth would he mirror N2? He had no pressure that I can recall.

 

What makes you think he doesn't know this?

 

I recall there being pressure on him from Darthe I think? 

 

 

 

So he mirrored in case the most highly read town player in the game shot him? Townie pro strats. 

 

 

If you thought you were town's only doc wouldn't you? 

 

 

DARTHE DID NOT SHOOT THANE...this I know!!!

 

 

Well could have been EP then? 

 

 

If you believe his claim then yes it could have been....but Im not buying it so Im fine with my vote.

 

i am commenting on voting the scummy guy....^^^^^^^^