Pokemon Mafia IV: The Mystery of Heart Island--GAME OVER--TEAM ROCKET WIN

[Turin Turambar]

^All the case you need and solid D1 work.  You're all welcome.

And totally WRONG. Whether on purpose or by accident remains to be seen.

[Darthe]

Can't find games one or two but I am bringing this up for reference.

 

Here is game two which had all three starters being claimed actually in it.  http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/73156-pokemon-mafia-ii-return-to-heart-island-game-over-team-rocket-win/page-48

Mafia didn't have safe claims.  Starters were all present.  Amazingly it's the same starters being claimed here, all gen II.

[Darthe]

One or Three I mean

[John Snow]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm already town now so how about NO?

 

 

Ugh god stop trying to confirm yourself.  

 

Oh cause that is your thing, right? 

 

Didn't you give me credit for not doing that a few pages ago?  You're fitting your argument to the thread at any given moment.

 

No I'm throwing your snark back at you. and using your schtick. You must think it is valid because you use it for yourself quite frequently.  Okay off to grab JS quotes.

 

 

These coming?

 

Also working on your case Turin while keeping up with thread. 

[Darthe]

 

^All the case you need and solid D1 work.  You're all welcome.

And totally WRONG. Whether on purpose or by accident remains to be seen.

 

If you don't want to be called a wolf don't play like a wolf but don't try to blame others for your poor performance.

[Darthe]

 

Jigglypuff will never be mafia.

 

And THE STUFF YOURE SAYING IS NOT CONFIRMED

 

So stop acting like it is.

 

 

As it stands, I don't think mafia would keep harping like this. I'm betting mafia are the people keeping their noses clean in this situation.

you're right, Jigglypuff would be third party based on the show. It was a prankster that was always alone.

 

THIS IS NOT ROLEPLAY IT"S MAFIA 

 

VIG ME NOW GUYZ 

[Darthe]

One or Three I mean

NOW IM YELLING

 

GET IT TOGETHER DARTHE

[Darthe]

Good evening :)

 

 

Project deadline's Friday to go to editing, so I'm still working overtime evenings this week, but I'm current(ish) with the thread.

Hey I need you to quickly and efficiently spew your slot for me.  Kthxbye

[Darthe]

Wait you're current?

 

Reads list.

[John Snow]

Can't find games one or two but I am bringing this up for reference.

 

Here is game two which had all three starters being claimed actually in it.  http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/73156-pokemon-mafia-ii-return-to-heart-island-game-over-team-rocket-win/page-48

Mafia didn't have safe claims.  Starters were all present.  Amazingly it's the same starters being claimed here, all gen II.

 

 

That was a good game. And you're gaming the mod. Jus' sayin'. 

[BFG]

So as of about 10 pages ago, I had Dice/Seph as my strongest mafia reads and EP/Leyrann/Darthe/Turin as likely town. Let me catch up on what I missed last night/today, I'll have a tab open to chat :)

[Darthe]

 

Can't find games one or two but I am bringing this up for reference.

 

Here is game two which had all three starters being claimed actually in it.  http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/73156-pokemon-mafia-ii-return-to-heart-island-game-over-team-rocket-win/page-48

Mafia didn't have safe claims.  Starters were all present.  Amazingly it's the same starters being claimed here, all gen II.

 

 

That was a good game. And you're gaming the mod. Jus' sayin'. 

 

I'm doing it to argue against the plethora of people gaming the mod.  

[Darthe]

So as of about 10 pages ago, I had Dice/Seph as my strongest mafia reads and EP/Leyrann/Darthe/Turin as likely town. Let me catch up on what I missed last night/today, I'll have a tab open to chat :)

I'll give you credit for picking odd wolves.

[Mashiara Sedai]

Sorry if my playing style is quite different from yours.  If it's a requirement to respond to every detail that comes up, I'll try better.  It's just difficult for me to form opinions this quickly, and I'm trying to look at it from all sides.
 
 
I said in the very beginning that I had no idea why everyone hopped on John Snow.  Darthe said earlier yesterday that he was the only one defending JS, and while that's technically correct, as I wasn't saying much, I also don't see a point in lynching someone just to get it over with.  We want to catch Mafia on D1.  That's the point of the game.  EP's comment about "just lynch and figure it out tomorrow" really stinks, in my opinion.  That's not the best way to get the scum.
 
Also, Dice, why don't you say something helpful instead of just "try again."  I don't want to be lead by the hand, but I am a new player and I'm trying my best.
 
Darthe has been such a strong leader that I question his motives.  
 
If I'm understanding this right, green equals Town and red equals Mafia.  Here's my list so far.
 

Seph

Eldrick's Replacement

 

John Snow

 

Ley

Darthe

RTE

Zander

Ithi/BFG

 

Hallia

Dice

TMD

Thane

 

EP

Turin

[Darthe]

I think I got an aneurysm when I read "Darthe has been such a strong town leader that I question his motives".

 

TRIGGERED

[Turin Turambar]

here we go. spoilered for size

 

 

 

We didn't have an N0 peek but because that's not a thing this game but it doesn't matter because I'm a day cop and got an innocent result on Ithi just now.

Looking back, surprised I missed it. Thoughts on this?

 

It's to back his attempt to lead town. I'll explain more on this when I get home.

 

He comes out of the blue with this "attempt to lead town thing". Mafia will try to do this but they generally do it in a way that is a little more over the top if you will. Basically trying to get themselves to look so clear. Darthe had not done this although in a later post Snow tries to say that he was. 
 

 

Clarification on Moves
 
 
Moves are used only in a Night Phase. You will PM me telling me which one you want to use at some point before the end of the Night Phase. A Night Phase may end early if I get all moves in before time runs out.

 
Didn't see the 'used only in a Night Phase' bit. >.>
 
And @Ithi, I didn't clarify then b/c I'm at work. I'm really not "supposed" to be playing mafia at work (oddly enough, they want me to actually work. Strange huh?), so my posts from work are mobile, short, and without multiquotes. Don't expect anything that's going to take more than a sentence or two to explain.

 

This is a bold faced lie IMO. It pretty clearly states in my PM anyway that all my moves are night actions only. This is sort of like the 3.5 hour delay in his dentist/doctor's appointment that made it so he was only there at 10 minutes prior to DL. In short I don't believe him.
 

 

 

 

We didn't have an N0 peek but because that's not a thing this game but it doesn't matter because I'm a day cop and got an innocent result on Ithi just now.

Looking back, surprised I missed it. Thoughts on this?

 

It's to back his attempt to lead town. I'll explain more on this when I get home.

 

 
 
With the no DA thing in mind, it doesn't mean as much. That said I still feel like Darthe's trying to lead the town.
 

Six posters, high likelihood that we already have a wolf in thread.  Not enough to go off of but IMO I'd go ahead and put Eldrick and John snow as town and might drop Seph back to null for being foppish but idk him well enough to really make that assertion yet.  
 
 
Talk to me

 
 

Doubt that this is a T/T/T convo.
 
You two can thunderdome now but I'll go ahead and tell you that I am biased.

 
 

 

It's morning for you darthe? 11pm here, I will probably go to sleep soon.
So far I have a town read on darthe.
This is my 3rd game with zander, I usually trouble reading him at the start of games.

Turin post worries me. Seems like he was posting to show us he was here and then left.

It's 1 AM here.  Turin did exactly that but it's not atypical for some people.  Not sure if that applies to him.  Zander seems intent on not making himself look town.  John Snow looks acutely intent on making himself look town.  Both will matter more in time.
 
-snip-

 

 
 

Cool.
 
I'm rolling with Seph and Eldrick as town, Turin as Null and a wolf between Zander/JohnSnuu.  
 
See you all in the morning, try to be productive and entertaining.

 
This constant posting, updating his thoughts every 30 mins with little interaction just seems off. 
 
Could be him trying to start the game up, but I feel like there's more to it than that. 
 
It's like a 60% gut thing. Unvote, vote Darthe.
 

.....I like Batman.....

 
lol
 

Don't laugh at me.   Why can't "Lock" mean that it can't fall down?
 
-snip-

 
 

-snip-

I'm taking that as a vote of confidence @ Ley. No doubt you just meant to Lock Clear the Thread

 
The right joke it that at least she Cleared the Lock on the thread  

 

Here he pushes against Darthe even knowing that a big part of his premise was faulty. Coming up ith new reasons why Darthe' town leading attempts are worth a vote. The things JS quoted here were IMO just Darthe making observations and giving opinions. 
 

The other two current votes on Darthe:
 
 

yolo
 
[v]Darthe[/v]
 
also, hi all

 
A joke vote well after real casing had started. And he hasn't been seen in a while. 
 

Personally not following all of Darthe's logic here. He seems pretty pushy on everyone to get someone lynched early. Mostly just pressing the vote button and seeing who squirms. Also no one thinks he is suspicious about the lie of being day cop when AH specifically said there aren't any day actions?
 
Either he is really pushing for town info, or he is scummy trying to get anyone except himself lynched.
 
Vote Darthe

 
I don't like this post. From what I've seen Darthe's been pushing people to back up their cases, but hasn't been pushing his hard at all. 
It seems townie, and my gut is feeling much better about Darthe.
 
I also don't like either of the two votes on him. 
 
[unvote]

 

Here he ejects in his Darthe vote while putting suspicion on the other people that were voting Darthe at the same time. It smacks of flipping the blame. This is something he did to Seph in the last game we played together and he was mafia then. 
 

Sorry it took a while. There were too many quotes so had to chop it up. Plus attend to some other things.

I will continue shortly.
 
 

[Mashiara Sedai]

I think I got an aneurysm when I read "Darthe has been such a strong town leader that I question his motives".

 

TRIGGERED

 

 Meaning what, Darthe?  

 

 

Also, I meant to post about Turin's certainty that he won't be lynched.  That's hinting at a very important Town role.  But why do that?

[Darthe]

Why do I bother making town reads?

[BFG]

Wait you're current?

 

Reads list.

Current ish I've been skimming since game start.

 

Dice seems to be hiding in mechanics talk, I'm not seeing actual reads from him.

 

Sept because of his Zander vote. If Seph flips mafia then Zander extremely likely town, but I haven't seen enough independently from him to read him town.

 

I'm liking most of EPs posts, other than the pokemon claim thing, but I don't know enough about Pokemon to know if he's right or not about Eldrick.

 

You're the most involved person in the game at the moment and I haven't seen anything outside of your recent town games yet.

 

I stole your meta on Turin from last game (acknowledging that it's open to abuse since it's now open), but he is more relaxed this game.

 

Leyrann it's presence and content.

 

Rest are mostly null, Zander at the town end due to an associated read on Seph.

[Mashiara Sedai]

I think your reads are helpful, but I still want to try my hand at figuring it out.

[John Snow]

Wait you're current?

 

Reads list.

 

 

Sure, gimmie a minute.

[Darthe]

 

I think I got an aneurysm when I read "Darthe has been such a strong town leader that I question his motives".

 

TRIGGERED

 

 Meaning what, Darthe?  

 

 

Also, I meant to post about Turin's certainty that he won't be lynched.  That's hinting at a very important Town role.  But why do that?

 

Meaning that's a terrible use of your brain.  If someone is able to wolf perfectly they should win the game because lynching them is shooting in the dark and you'll be wrong 95% of the time.  Actually it's worse than shooting in the dark, it's shooting a cop in the hopes that they are a criminal in disguise.

 

Because it gets people to avoid considering him a lynch candidate.

[John Snow]

 

Wait you're current?

 

Reads list.

Current ish I've been skimming since game start.

 

Dice seems to be hiding in mechanics talk, I'm not seeing actual reads from him.

 

Sept because of his Zander vote. If Seph flips mafia then Zander extremely likely town, but I haven't seen enough independently from him to read him town.

 

I'm liking most of EPs posts, other than the pokemon claim thing, but I don't know enough about Pokemon to know if he's right or not about Eldrick.

 

You're the most involved person in the game at the moment and I haven't seen anything outside of your recent town games yet.

 

I stole your meta on Turin from last game (acknowledging that it's open to abuse since it's now open), but he is more relaxed this game.

 

Leyrann it's presence and content.

 

Rest are mostly null, Zander at the town end due to an associated read on Seph.

 

 

 

Opinions on the current Hallia/Turin/me cases?

[BFG]

 

So as of about 10 pages ago, I had Dice/Seph as my strongest mafia reads and EP/Leyrann/Darthe/Turin as likely town. Let me catch up on what I missed last night/today, I'll have a tab open to chat :)

I'll give you credit for picking odd wolves.

 

 

catching up last few pages, and then rereading if I have time, I want to see what I missed since most people have them town side of null :/

[Mashiara Sedai]

Because it gets people to avoid considering him a lynch candidate.

 

That's exact why I'm holding off voting for him right now.