[Basic] Christmas Mentors & Maffia

[Tommyrod]

I think it makes sense because Via hasn't been in serious risk of being lynched yet, so they can afford to kill the confirmed town first, and her pattern of staying in the background also fits quite well to ensure she is the last one to be suspected.

[Nolder]

I don't buy the RB theory Tommy.  It's a bad choice for scum to make.   Using that reasoning they'd be taking the risk of their role blocker getting lynched and then having no way to deal with Nolder.

 

If there is a scum role blocker, Nolder would be dead now.  Then it wouldn't matter which scum member got lynched.

Not true at all. Scum could be going for a frame job.

Which puts suspicion on Tommy imo for bringing it up in the first place.

[Tommyrod]

Nolder, the things you think are scummy often make me go ???

[peacesells]

 

I don't buy the RB theory Tommy.  It's a bad choice for scum to make.   Using that reasoning they'd be taking the risk of their role blocker getting lynched and then having no way to deal with Nolder.

 

If there is a scum role blocker, Nolder would be dead now.  Then it wouldn't matter which scum member got lynched.

Not true at all. Scum could be going for a frame job.

Which puts suspicion on Tommy imo for bringing it up in the first place.

 

 

These two statements don't seem to go together.  Can you explain further why you disagree with me.

[peacesells]

I think it makes sense because Via hasn't been in serious risk of being lynched yet, so they can afford to kill the confirmed town first, and her pattern of staying in the background also fits quite well to ensure she is the last one to be suspected.

 

It's a useless risk cause it buys you nothing.

[Tommyrod]

 

I think it makes sense because Via hasn't been in serious risk of being lynched yet, so they can afford to kill the confirmed town first, and her pattern of staying in the background also fits quite well to ensure she is the last one to be suspected.

 

It's a useless risk cause it buys you nothing.

 

 

We must come from very different worlds then. Have you seen Nolder in this game? The guy is borderline incompetent. He was on the way to getting lynched if he didn't claim, and the things he says are just... dumb. Worst case scenario for scum is Via gets lynched before they can kill Key -> BFG -> Nolder and then they have to guess on kills, just as they were probably doing before. Best case scenario is they kill everyone neatly or Nolder gets himself lynched for being a doofus. It makes awesome sense to me.

[BFG]

Out of Nolder, Key and myself, Nolder is the least confirmed, Key and Nolder are both much better players than I am and have had far more input. Killing Key out of the three of us makes sense imo.

 

 

Tommy, should say that everyone is capable of fooling me at least some of the time not just you, as evidenced by still not knowing who to lynch.

[BFG]

Out of Nolder, Key and myself, Nolder is the least confirmed, Key and Nolder are both much better players than I am and have had far more input. Killing Key out of the three of us makes sense imo.

 

 

Tommy, should say that everyone is capable of fooling me at least some of the time not just you, as evidenced by still not knowing who to lynch.

 

 

[BFG]

Huh, double post.

[Tommyrod]

Out of Nolder, Key and myself, Nolder is the least confirmed, Key and Nolder are both much better players than I am and have had far more input. Killing Key out of the three of us makes sense imo.

 

 

Tommy, should say that everyone is capable of fooling me at least some of the time not just you, as evidenced by still not knowing who to lynch.

 

Thank you. Peace is acting like I'm insane. I am not. I am semi-sane. There is a difference. 

[Elaevia]

I'm up for another half hour to an hour - am happy to hammer before I turn in

[BFG]

Is Peace still around? Why do you have a town read on Via?

[Blackhoof]

I do not like Via's sudden "tommy must be scum" followed by "no uh... he is town" literally a page later. Reads to me like a failed attempt to set up a lynch after mine, it somesuch. But then he said that we were either scum-scum or town-town.... I am town, so why would a mafioso try to clear someone like that unless they were teammates? But that would be quite clumsy.

 

##vote peace.

The thing clearing him for me doesn't work anymore. Earlygame he was also obstinate and unhelpful, and he hasn't really improved much.

[Elaevia]

If was making an attempt to set up a lynch, I would probably let the idea hang around longer.

 

Plus to set up a lynch following the reasoning I used, you would have to flip mafia.......

[peacesells]

 

Out of Nolder, Key and myself, Nolder is the least confirmed, Key and Nolder are both much better players than I am and have had far more input. Killing Key out of the three of us makes sense imo.

 

 

Tommy, should say that everyone is capable of fooling me at least some of the time not just you, as evidenced by still not knowing who to lynch.

 

Thank you. Peace is acting like I'm insane. I am not. I am semi-sane. There is a difference. 

 

 

I don't think you are insane...just don't think your theory holds much water.

[peacesells]

Is Peace still around? Why do you have a town read on Via?

 

It's been awhile but I believe it was the interaction between Via and Golden.  I didn't see it as distancing.

[peacesells]

I do not like Via's sudden "tommy must be scum" followed by "no uh... he is town" literally a page later. Reads to me like a failed attempt to set up a lynch after mine, it somesuch. But then he said that we were either scum-scum or town-town.... I am town, so why would a mafioso try to clear someone like that unless they were teammates? But that would be quite clumsy.

 

##vote peace.

The thing clearing him for me doesn't work anymore. Earlygame he was also obstinate and unhelpful, and he hasn't really improved much.

 

What is that thing Hoof?

[BFG]

Does anyone know how long it is till deadline?

[csarmi]

*raises hand*

 

Should be 5 hours and 20 minutes. Deadlines are not 100% fixed, Aj may move it if he feels like it.

 

* faints back to sleep *

[csarmi]

Rules 7 - Deadlines will be mutable and based on activity. If I sense that the players are making an effort and could achieve a decision soon, I will likely extend deadline. Should I sense the opposite, I will not.

 

It's up to the reigning mod, in this case, AJ. I'm the sleeping mod right now.

[BFG]

Ok, ISO'd Peace...

 

From Day 1 couple of times he says that he has a strong mafia read off Nolder, but leaves his vote on Elf. However does say that Elf and Nolder are his strongest reads.  also that strange comment on Tommy's challenge to Turin. His vote on Golden was more than just meta, although that was a large part of it, equally Leelou picked up on the same thing.

 

@Peace thanks, can agree with that.

 

I'm going to hold off my vote for now and will set an alarm... I really want Via on record here.

[Elaevia]

Bed time for me, won't be up before deadline, so like I said

 

##vote hoof

[csarmi]

Vote Count 4.4

 

Hoof (4) - Peace, Tommy, Cloud, Via

Peace (2) - Nolder, Hoof

 

Not Voting: BFG

 

4 to lynch.

 

Lynch achieved, scene coming up. Do not post

[csarmi]

...

 

Hoof was acting strange. Several people pointed that out, and a heated argument ensued. It ended up by him being searched for stolen objects.

None was found.

 

Hoof, vanilla town stormed off the party and never wanna see you again. Ever.

 

...

[Tommyrod]

FAIL.