Victory Via Rage

[EmperorAllspice]

Here's a question I have. It's been bothering me for a while.

 

I have quit several series primarily because I hate it when a main character wins a fight fueled by rage. This is what I like to call entering "murder mode". Where they lose their inhibitions and manage to curbstomp the opposition using raw animalistic rage. Or worse, when their anger somehow gives them greater abilities.

 

I just wonder, are there any series or films where that crap is subverted? Where they suddenly become full of rage and then get the crap beaten out of them and fail miserably?

 

I just don't get how people can find that stuff satisfying. I mean, it boils down all physical conflict to "waiting for the protagonist to get angry enough to win". It bothers me to no end.

[Leyrann]

Have you finished WoT already?

[WWWwombat]

I wouldn't say WoT subverts it, but it definitely doesn't embrace it imo. Most of the sword combat is about skill. Perrin is the ragiest fighter I'd say, but he has good reasons for it and even so, he worries about it a lot.

[EmperorAllspice]

Have you finished WoT already?

Hell no. I read ridiculously slowly.

 

I'm on book 11

[WWWwombat]

Galad's PoV in the prologue of book 11 actually came to mind when I was writing my last post but I left it out.

[WWWwombat]

At least I think it was book 11.

[EmperorAllspice]

Galad's PoV in the prologue of book 11 actually came to mind when I was writing my last post but I left it out.

Uh huh, and then True Power Rand happens.

[Leyrann]

 

Galad's PoV in the prologue of book 11 actually came to mind when I was writing my last post but I left it out.

Uh huh, and then True Power Rand happens.

 

 

That's just the Dark One trying to make him join him... Also that's book 12... How do you know that?

[Netbattler11]

You probly will hit harder if you're angry. You be easier to hit in turn though.

[EmperorAllspice]

 

 

Galad's PoV in the prologue of book 11 actually came to mind when I was writing my last post but I left it out.

Uh huh, and then True Power Rand happens.

 

 

That's just the Dark One trying to make him join him... Also that's book 12... How do you know that?

 

Spoilers are the only reason I've read as much as I have.

 

Think I could've tolerated the way Moggy was treated unless I knew that she becomes useful to the shadow again in book 14?

[WWWwombat]

I <3 Moggy

[Leyrann]

 

 

 

Galad's PoV in the prologue of book 11 actually came to mind when I was writing my last post but I left it out.

Uh huh, and then True Power Rand happens.

 

 

That's just the Dark One trying to make him join him... Also that's book 12... How do you know that?

 

Spoilers are the only reason I've read as much as I have.

 

Think I could've tolerated the way Moggy was treated unless I knew that she becomes useful to the shadow again in book 14?

 

 

What did she do again...

 

I actually don't think she really became useful... I think she tried to take over Demandred's place, but was almost immediately after taken by the Seanchan.

[Leyrann]

I <3 Moggy

 

Now kiss.

[WWWwombat]

Moggy spied on the Light and fed intel to Demandred.

[Leyrann]

Oh, yeah. That's right. Meh.

[EmperorAllspice]

Oh, yeah. That's right. Meh.

Which is what she's MEANT TO DO.

 

It's what she should've been doing this entire series, but RJ had to make her develop a vendetta, something I found really out of character for a coward who never takes ANY risks to do.

[Locke]

Yeah, this annoys me too. See it all the time in animes.  I wish there was more content with a higher focus on strategic and skillful battle systems. 

[Leyrann]

Your colour, Locke.

 

Also animes are just bad...

[EmperorAllspice]

Don't get me wrong. I like it when heroic resolve and will power can help win a fight, but I hate when I find myself waiting for the main character to get mad enough to win.

 

Case in point Gurren Lagann.

[Locke]

Your face, Ley. 

Yep, totally.  It would be better if more people wrote in consideration of Sanderson's magic laws imo. If feelings are going to win a fight, then that ought to at least be an established part of the magic system. 

[Leyrann]

Is Mistborn worth reading?

[Locke]

Is Mistborn worth reading?

Yes.

 

More specifically, Mistborn: The Final Empire is #1 on my theoretical list of favourite books.

Edited August 2, 2013 by Locke

[Leyrann]

Might give it a try then.

[Elaevia]

oh... thought this topic was about me! I thought 'hang on, I'm not ragey!'

 

LOL!

[Netbattler11]

Your colour, Locke.

 

Also animes are just bad...

No. Go eat a pile of sock monkeys.

 

Is Mistborn worth reading?

Very much so.