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Harry Potter most definitely counts!!  I especially like Hermoine's talent for being in two places at once! Ah, the things I could do with that!

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I suppose this might be considered part of the topic.  I went to the new Iron Man 3 last night and it made me think of how cool it would be to have some of the gadgets and awesome tech stuff Tony Stark has.  Are there books out there in the Fantasy Genre that have such things, or would that be considered science fiction??

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my favorite bookstore ppl explained the line they used to divide the sci fi and fantasy sections like this - if the people got to whatever world they're on by spaceship or similar tech, it was sci fi.  otherwise, fantasy.  

 

arbitrary and silly, but i think any distinction like that by nature has to be.  because... there really is no clear line.

 

they put dragonriders in the sci fi section... it wasn't an intuitive or obvious placement.  until later in the series, when it goes all canticle for liebowitz and technology is rediscovered, we see essentially magical creatures substituting for gadgets.  

 

i'd call most of the tech on star trek fantastic,  like food replicators, transporters, etc... i'd have called all of it fantasy when the shows first aired, but... some things are a little more real now.

 

i'd say terangreals and such are very gadgety.  and things like gateways are very like stargates and wormholes etc.

 

mirrors of erised, sorcerers stones, magic wands, gadgets.

 

magic swords, crystal balls, fairy dust... technology, of a kind.

 

i'm trying to think of any fantasy books that don't have such things and i'm not coming up with any.

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I like the distinction they show between sci-fi and fantasy...I've been looking for something like that in order to shelve my collections, and I have used something similar only the way I see it, if there's spaceships involved it's sci-fi. Or if there's mention of other planets. Some of them can be categorized in either way so I tend to lean towards which is predominate.

Iron Man is probably more sci-fi than fantasy, but sometimes I think that having some of that tech stuff would be almost like having magic of a sort.

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I'd love to have the ability to heal/soothe people. 

 

Also, flying.

 

Telekinesis and traveling would also be welcome :P

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I agree with that Heart, flying would be my next one, although the gateways would be good for travel.  It would be so nice to be somewhere instantly, although I think it could cause a lot of problems if everyone could do it.

I just finished the first book of the Belgariad, now I know what the Will and the Word is, although I haven't seen it used much. I'm waiting to see what kind of restrictions or consequences it might have.  Seems to me you could do just about anything with it, good or bad.

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It's actually light reading post WoT but it is a gateway drug to WoT otherwise.

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I know what you mean about light reading...it's pretty small compared to the complexity of TWoT.

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I was thinking yesterday about other things we could discuss on this topic.  I wonder how the abilities we've discussed so far would work in relation to each other. For example, a metallurgist who could channel?  What do you all think? Would this or any other combinations you could think of be feasable?

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I'm trying to think of combined abilities... something that always bugged me about WoT was the division of relative strengths in the elements ... didn't seem fair you couldn't be good at everything. I want to tap all the power. I'd so burn myself out but it would be worth it.

 

I can't think of combined abilities in terms of one from series a and one from series b, tho. I think a good fantasy creates a complete world where all needs can be met in its own magic system. it's wish fulfillment.

 

maybe an adamantium skeleton, link's rejuvenating potions, an invisibility cloak and a TARDIS....

 

but ... yeah, I want all the abilities except the flying.

 

I'd much rather have the ability to live underwater, survive ocean depths, swim as fast as a dolphin. I don't think aqua man is lame at all.

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Here's another thought to ponder on...

 

We talked about the abilities we'd like to have, but what if some of these abilities were wielded by those who did not have mankind's best interests at heart. Imagine the devastation they could enact. So far I've only seen the Will and the Word used for good, but what if...

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I don't wanna think about what effects channeling woul;d have upon RL if it were introduced. Healing would be nice, and gateways, but I think a lot of the rest could be perverted for bad things. And maybe gateways could be used badly, too.

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I do believe that in several of the series it is explained that the act in itself is not bad, but the intent. I do agree Basel, that it would be awful if channeling or even the Will and the Word were to be used in RL.

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I've found that knowing someone's middle name gives you quite a lot of power over them. All I know is that you're Cindy and you're a cat.

 

We never know the real names by which cats call themselves beneath the moon. This is why they seem to smile all the time. We cannot know and they cannot tell us.

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we can but choose not to.

 

dale, btw.

 

and my superpower is mind control, but all I can control are things cats control lke the desire to bring me treats and the fear that I may steal your soul or trip you in the dark. and the unnatural affection of mice...

 

cat powers are of limited use.

 

is why I need the dragon.

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I don't have one either, my mother said that my first name was long enough all by itself.

 

As for using middle names, moms use them when their kids are in trouble and the press uses them when talking about adults who are in trouble....makes me kind of glad I don't have one.

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Exactly A middle name is an extra three or four syllables you can wrap your displeasure into as you berate someone. It's the last thin line between scolding and swearing and, for that reason, I don't let anyone know it.

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so you want the fantastic ability to know the true, full names of things in order to berate them?

 

..... could you not just learn from Internet forums?

 

I would prefer to power to unsee what was seen and unhear what was heard and mostly to unsay what has been said... undo what has been done. I think I want the power of pause, rewind, and erase.

 

but I was born with the power to do damage with words so I don't need any supernatural help there.

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