Olver_is_a_Forsaken - Member Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) This one was found by Herid (I can't claim any credit): Chapter 4 p. 131 TOR Edition: "He cannot hear what we say?" "No," Pevara said. This would seem to be fairly unambiguously a lie. That's only a double negative, used in everyday speech. I don't think it was intentional, hehehe. Upon first reading I didn't get your point, although I think I noticed it at the time. Androl had him bound with flows of air at the time, so he couldn't hear. Very good point! "An Aes Sedai never lies, but the truth she speaks, may not be the truth you think you hear."! Edited January 9, 2013 by Olver_is_a_Forsaken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jcsalomon - Member Share Posted January 9, 2013 This one was found by Herid (I can't claim any credit): Chapter 4 p. 131 TOR Edition: "He cannot hear what we say?" "No," Pevara said. This would seem to be fairly unambiguously a lie. Try this on for size: “He cannot hear what we say?” “No, [he can,]” Pevara said. The wording of the question has a delightful ambiguity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cherubin - Member Share Posted January 9, 2013 Was it error that Pevara and Androl could still communicate via thoughts while they where in a stedding? Also, why did the evil channelers not immediately realize they were entering a stedding. I mean it was a super-cool scene, but somehow did not feel right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cem Önal - Member Share Posted January 9, 2013 Normal bond works fine in steddings, so double-bond working is not an error. I agree with the other thing though. They are chasing the Dragon Reborn, you'd assume they'd be bursting with Power. They should have felt it when it's gone and take a few step back to escape the stedding pretty fast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TLHansum - Member Share Posted January 10, 2013 Bottom of page 803 mentions "a blood" instead of "blood" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Byzantine279 - Member Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) This one was found by Herid (I can't claim any credit): Chapter 4 p. 131 TOR Edition: "He cannot hear what we say?" "No," Pevara said. This would seem to be fairly unambiguously a lie. >>>This one was found by Herid (I can't claim any credit): Chapter 4 p. 131 TOR Edition: "He cannot hear what we say?" "No," Pevara said. This would seem to be fairly unambiguously a lie. I had the same thought when I read that. Read it a bit more carefully. While people usually use "No" in that situation to indicate that someone cannot hear them in real life if you take it literally she is saying that he can indeed hear what they say, since she is denying the statement saying he can't. (I think about this all the time when writing things, since I'm apt to fall into ambiguous yes/no situations like that if I'm not careful, and inclined to take the "unusual" one). I agree it is something of a stretch to most people, but that really doesn't matter, it only needs to make sense to her, and it would to me so it is possible. (In other words she bluntly told him they were letting him listen, and he didn't even notice). Questions like that are very dangerous, especially when (intentionally) given to an Aes Sedai. She almost certainly coached him on how to phrase the question so she could say the truth without giving them away. Edited January 10, 2013 by Torn Shadow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bromo Sapien - Member Share Posted January 10, 2013 On page 901 of the TOR version, during Perrin's wolf dream leaping, he goes from the Two Rivers to the Waste. Given that he was going back through his entire journey, I'm pretty sure they meant the Blight, referring to the end of tEotW. Plus, Perrin has never been to the Waste so... BTW, what was Luckers' non-erroneous error? Not that I was heavily invested in the details and looking for this, but nothing jumped off the page to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pmtang - Member Share Posted January 10, 2013 This one was found by Herid (I can't claim any credit): Chapter 4 p. 131 TOR Edition: "He cannot hear what we say?" "No," Pevara said. This would seem to be fairly unambiguously a lie. >>>This one was found by Herid (I can't claim any credit): Chapter 4 p. 131 TOR Edition: "He cannot hear what we say?" "No," Pevara said. This would seem to be fairly unambiguously a lie. I had the same thought when I read that. Read it a bit more carefully. While people usually use "No" in that situation to indicate that someone cannot hear them in real life if you take it literally she is saying that he can indeed hear what they say, since she is denying the statement saying he can't. (I think about this all the time when writing things, since I'm apt to fall into ambiguous yes/no situations like that if I'm not careful, and inclined to take the "unusual" one). I agree it is something of a stretch to most people, but that really doesn't matter, it only needs to make sense to her, and it would to me so it is possible. (In other words she bluntly told him they were letting him listen, and he didn't even notice). Questions like that are very dangerous, especially when (intentionally) given to an Aes Sedai. She almost certainly coached him on how to phrase the question so she could say the truth without giving them away. Good catch!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pmtang - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 Chapter 14, pg 289 Tor edition. This is when Pevara and Androl are captured. Androl? Pevara sent. I have an idea.What? Androl goes on to cast doubt on Evin and eventually gets himself free. We see that this was Androl's plan and Pevara had no idea about it with her line of That.......can't possibly work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrMatrim - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 Chapter 37, page 681, TOR edition. The scene is from Silviana's POV. Right after she asks Egwene for Gawyn's bond, the scene shifts without warning to Egwene's POV for one paragraph, then returns to Silviana's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Talitha - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 Not sure if this is a typo or an aubiobook mistake. On page 907, near the very bottom. I was re-reading the ending while listening along with the audio book....Written: He'd seen his father's farm. And palaces. He'd seen a lot of palaces.Audiobook: He'd seen his father's farm. And palaces. He'd seen a lot of places. Not sure which is correct. Personally I prefer the audiobook version as its not just a repetition of palaces, but it could easily be that Michael Kramer misread it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Ahlstrom - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 I'm pretty sure that is an audiobook error. Here is one found by Joel Phillips of book #1 at the midnight release: Tor edition page 831: As the trembling subsided, Logan continued. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bleh - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 On the whole, I really enjoyed the book and think it is one of the best in the series. I would have loved an extra chapter set a few years in the future showing what all the surviving main characters were up to, but I can live without that. I don't know so much that this is an "error" as such (maybe this needs to be posted somewhere else), but seems to me quite strange that Moridin's not yet dead body is just left unattended/unguarded. Even given the fact that they assume he's not going to survive because Nyn and Flynn can't heal either of them, surely they have to be worried that some surviving Forsaken/dreadlord/darkfriend might sneak in and rescue him and know a way of reviving him. And on top of that, when he does get up and leave, cadsuane looks at him from a distance and has a hunch that it's Rand and just lets him go. Sure, she might think Rand deserves to be able to quietly wander off in his new body, but if there was any chance that she was letting one of the Forsaken get away, surely she would have done something? Maybe if it was some unknown body he swapped with, but Nyn and Moirane know that it was Moridin and I doubt they came out of SG and when asked who the person was with Rand just said "Oh, I don't know... some guy." So everyone knows who the second body is. Just seems a massive stretch to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Selig - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Not sure if it's a mistake or deliberate lie, but I noticed this in Ch.4 "So I was forced to go with Logain. He and that Dragon fellow, both are obviously farmers and wouldn’t recognize a highborn man.” Logain is a minor noble and IIRC this was pretty well known, him being a famous False Dragon and all. But maybe Dobler the doofus didn't know and Emarin lied to him successfully... Another one from Ch. 8: "She (Elayne) hadn’t ruled Caemlyn for a hundred days, and already it was lost." She took control of the city at the end of PoD, around six months before this point. Edited January 11, 2013 by David Selig Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pmtang - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Not sure if it's a mistake or deliberate lie, but I noticed this in Ch.4 "So I was forced to go with Logain. He and that Dragon fellow, both are obviously farmers and wouldn’t recognize a highborn man.” Logain is a minor noble and IIRC this was pretty well known, him being a famous False Dragon and all. But maybe Dobler the doofus didn't know and Emarin lied to him successfully... Another one from Ch. 8: "She (Elayne) hadn’t ruled Caemlyn for a hundred days, and already it was lost." She took control of the city at the end of PoD, around six months before this point. Elayne didn't put claim to her throne for a long time after entering Caemlyn. And even then she still had to fight a civil war before being able to rule it. Edited January 11, 2013 by pmtang Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Selig - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 Elayne didn't put claim to her throne for a long time after entering Caemlyn. And even then she still had to fight a civil war before being able to rule it. Elayne put a claim to the Throne immediately after she came back. More relevant to my point - she ruled Caemlyn from this point until the Trollocs came (we see in WH she was in total control of the city), which was a lot longer than 100 days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madelineb - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 Not sure if this is a mistake...? Chapter 24 starts in Tuon's POV, and the first references of Mat are either as "Mat" or "Matrim." On the top of page 436, she renames him Knotai, and in the first paragraph after that explaining what it means he's described as Mat. Then he's Knotai for most of the rest of the scene, since it's from Tuon's perspective I guess. But in one line on the next page it's "'Tuon...' Mat warned." Deliberate switch back to his own name since he's being familiar with her, or should that have been changed too? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwillis7 - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 is Braen Wood really 150 miles from the City... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwillis7 - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 ok here is a map of TV http://www.wotmud.org/directory/maps/tarvalonmap.gif you can see it is 2 miles long on this map of Andor you can see TV at the top http://www.wotmud.org/directory/maps/andor.gif and you can tell that it has to be a mistake that the wood if 150 miles from the city Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Terez - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 The maps are not perfectly to scale; we've asked about this before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cem Önal - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 I agree 150 is too much. I would have said at most 50 miles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwillis7 - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 150 is WAY to much, it makes the size of the world to big to manage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Selig - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 is Braen Wood really 150 miles from the City... WH, Ch. 27: "Elayne found herself riding Fireheart slowly through the snows of Braem Wood, near enough fifty leagues north of Caemlyn" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwillis7 - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 i am at work so i dont have the book with me, i will look at it at lunch. In this book it says the wood is ahundred and fifty miles from the city. I went back to check when they started fighting because i was sure i read it wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Terez - Member Share Posted January 11, 2013 is Braen Wood really 150 miles from the City... WH, Ch. 27: "Elayne found herself riding Fireheart slowly through the snows of Braem Wood, near enough fifty leagues north of Caemlyn" And there are four miles to a league. Miles are a bit shorter in Randland, but not much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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