Pokemon League Mafia Game Thread--GAME OVER--Congrats Town!!!

[Gabriel Kross]

*Psyduck uses confusion*

 

*Psyduck is confused*

 

*Psyduck hurts itself in it's confusion*

[Thorum]

Does that count as a selfvote?

 

If so

 

*Gets out all his pokémon and lets them attack that talking cat. Simultaneously.*

[Nolder]

Nyanna, bad habit to half-reveal. Either you reveal, or you do not.

More pressuring

This is very interesting considering I revealed as Voltorb and didn't receive these sorts of comments

- What do you mean with the "pressuring" part?

- Nyanna is new, you are not. As far as I know. btw, I don't think I was online between you revealing being Voltorb and you denying being Voltorb. I can be wrong, but the first reason would make me less inclined to give you a similar advise.

You're pressuring her to fully reveal. Also I was not aware she was new but now that I do I don't care. She obviously knows what she is doing. I also don't know what the point of bringing it up was. As for giving advice, call it what you want I guess. I see it as pressure/role fishing.

 

Thanks for quoting what I said about catching mafia day 1.

???

 

I'll say a bit more on the first Nolder-quote in my previous post.

- I asked you how you helped town. You said it was either a neutral or a negative effect on town. Which is why I unvoted you (mafia would never admit this). So now you're saying you did good to town? Then what is it and why didn't you mention it in one of your first four points?

- I unvoted you because your intentions WERE clear. Past tense (as of a couple of minutes).

1. No I said there was no way for me to tell whether my actions had a positive effect, a negative effect, or really any effect at all. You're asking me how it "helped town" but my answer is that that's a loaded question. You're trying to set me up by getting me to say I'm not helping the town or some BS. Why don't you tell us how voting yourself "helped town"? The fact of the matter is "helping town" isn't something that can be determined until much later in the game, perhaps after it's over. You want to know why I did it and I told you why, the short answer is "scumhunting". If you're not satisfied with that that's your problem.

 

2. Yes you unvoted but you're still grilling me about something I already answered and that's been done with for at least a dozen pages now.

[Thorum]

Thanks for quoting what I said about catching mafia day 1.

???

We had a post in the same minute.

 

 

I'll say a bit more on the first Nolder-quote in my previous post.

- I asked you how you helped town. You said it was either a neutral or a negative effect on town. Which is why I unvoted you (mafia would never admit this). So now you're saying you did good to town? Then what is it and why didn't you mention it in one of your first four points?

- I unvoted you because your intentions WERE clear. Past tense (as of a couple of minutes).

1. No I said there was no way for me to tell whether my actions had a positive effect, a negative effect, or really any effect at all. You're asking me how it "helped town" but my answer is that that's a loaded question. You're trying to set me up by getting me to say I'm not helping the town or some BS. Why don't you tell us how voting yourself "helped town"? The fact of the matter is "helping town" isn't something that can be determined until much later in the game, perhaps after it's over. You want to know why I did it and I told you why, the short answer is "scumhunting". If you're not satisfied with that that's your problem.

I already explained the selfvoting (a couple of posts ago).

Let's take a look at your post

 

As for the other. You quoted your answer to why you fake-claimed yourself. Which part of this answer is positive to town?

Nolder, why did you fake claim Voltorb and what good did it do to town?

A few reasons

1. I was bored with the game. I felt like it was moving slowly and there just wasn't any discussion going on that seemed relevant.

2. I wanted to stir things up Re: reason 1.

3. Looking for reactions specifically to my claim.

4. As I said, I'm vanilla. If things backfired and I was lynched because of it that's really the best result for town aside from an actual scum lynch which is rare on day 1. In a way you could call it protecting any power roles we have.

 

As for what good it did the town, that's debatable of course. Could have had a negative impact on the game. Might have had none. Mafia games are really complicated especially while they're still ongoing. I don't think I could make the call whether it had any impact at all at this point.

 

2. Yes you unvoted but you're still grilling me about something I already answered and that's been done with for at least a dozen pages now.

Because you just changed your answer.

 

 

 

 

Why are you doing this? You were finally off the radar, and now are back on. Are you the same Nolder I played with before?

[Turin Turambar]

Nolder is not happy unless he is going Mach 2 with his hair on fire.

[Nolder]

I already explained the selfvoting (a couple of posts ago).

Let's take a look at your post

It's a rhetorical question anyway

 

As for the other. You quoted your answer to why you fake-claimed yourself. Which part of this answer is positive to town?

Nolder, why did you fake claim Voltorb and what good did it do to town?

A few reasons

1. I was bored with the game. I felt like it was moving slowly and there just wasn't any discussion going on that seemed relevant.

2. I wanted to stir things up Re: reason 1.

3. Looking for reactions specifically to my claim.

4. As I said, I'm vanilla. If things backfired and I was lynched because of it that's really the best result for town aside from an actual scum lynch which is rare on day 1. In a way you could call it protecting any power roles we have.

 

As for what good it did the town, that's debatable of course. Could have had a negative impact on the game. Might have had none. Mafia games are really complicated especially while they're still ongoing. I don't think I could make the call whether it had any impact at all at this point.

I'm done talking about whether my actions, or anyones actions for that matter, "help town" because you really can't make that call without more information

 

You have my answer right there so decide for yourself and stop trying to trap me into saying I'm "not helping" or whatever it is you're going for

It's not going to work

 

2. Yes you unvoted but you're still grilling me about something I already answered and that's been done with for at least a dozen pages now.

Because you just changed your answer.

 

 

 

 

Why are you doing this? You were finally off the radar, and now are back on. Are you the same Nolder I played with before?

No I didn't

 

Why am I doing what? Replying? I had a post restriction for 24 hours so I really couldn't participate effectively

Now that it's over I'm catching up

 

In the process you decide you want to reply to my reply so here we are with another back and forth

It's not that hard to figure out

[IzaliaFox]

OK - so now I have finished your Mafia Master Class, I want you all to look around you and see what has happened. Whilst we have been arguing and shouting at each other, it has gone quiet.

 

Nya - I voted for you because of you silly outburst about having a role we needed.

Loke - I voted for you, because you are acting like this is personal, which it is not.

 

However, I don't actually think either of you are Mafia really. Sometimes it's an idea to vote for someone and see what happens. Perhaps this is what you were doing Loke, but too many times, and not Joke Votes. All votes have a reason, whether it's to lynch or draw out or pressure. There is no such thing as a joke vote. Even that 1st one you place usually has a bit of meaning.

 

I shall go back to my first thoughts now that I have had a bit of a poke about. I was a bit bored to be honest

 

Unvote - Vote Tina

 

Asks everyone to get on and play the game, but is invisible when that actually happens.

 

Also list for Mafia Team

 

Tina

Volke

EP

 

and someone else that I haven't figured out yet. Possibly two someone elses.

 

You Sure that I am Mafia Ithi? Hmm interesting...

 

Unvote Vote Ithi Cause I can lol

[Niniel]

You omgus vote Ithi because "you can". With a lol.

[Lenlo]

It's not even OMGUS she voted for Tina. I dint like Volke right now either but still think Arez is the way to go.

[Thorum]

Nolder. This is my last post on this, mainly cause it's not game-relevant imo (you may disagree, but discuss it with others).

What happened (in the order it happened):

 

1) you claimed Voltorb

2) you claimed not being Voltorb

3) some people thought this strange

4) I think it's strange too, and ask what good it has done to town

5) you reply it probably had a neutral or negative effect

6) I agree, and also say I don't believe a mafia would have reacted differently. Others unvote you around the same time.

 

7) You are absent for a while (whatever the reason).

 

8) You are indignated that we all believed and unvoted you

9) I'm growing tired of you pulling yourself deep in the mud.

 

 

You don't have a role where someone has to have his vote on you do you. Btw, don't answer that. But you're smart enough for that. I hope.

[Thorum]

The first sentence of the last line needs a question mark, of course.

[Nolder]

1) you claimed Voltorb

You missed 1.5

A rather fast train formed on me after it was implied I might be a bomb

 

2) you claimed not being Voltorb

I wasn't going to be around for awhile and it didn't make sense to continue with the charade

 

3) some people thought this strange

That's an interesting way of putting it

 

4) I think it's strange too,

How very innocent of you

 

and ask what good it has done to town

Which is a stupid thing to ask someone

 

5) you reply it probably had a neutral or negative effect that it cannot be determined but I'll conveniently mix up what you said later

do tell

 

6) I agree,

That's great! (see what I did there?)

 

and also say I don't believe a mafia would have reacted differently. Others unvote you around the same time.

Mhmmm

 

7) You are absent for a while (whatever the reason).

A reason that was just explained oh...5 posts ago? It's so hard to keep track of things said on the same page isn't it?

 

8) You are indignated that we all believed and unvoted you

lol wat

Indignated? Putting aside that...I don't think that's an actual word I have no idea where you got the impression that I would become upset while being unvoted.

Unless of course I wasn't but you wanted to say I was anyway to imply that I was being unreasonble. A townsperson wouldn't do that though would they Thorum?

 

9) I'm growing tired of you pulling yourself deep in the mud.

I don't even know how to respond to something as ridiculous as this. I can't even muster sarcasm.

[Arez Al'Loke]

*Pats Nolder on the shoulder*

 

It's all gonna be alright buddy!

[Nolder]

great!

[Sakaea]

*spins in circles cus she is confused*

[Nyanna al'Meara]

*sits on Kae's head and spins with her*

 

Ommmmm...

 

[Turin Turambar]

I thought EP was the Psyduck. How did Kae get confused?

[IzaliaFox]

*looks around warily, and goes back nomming on marshmellows*

[Darthe]

Just did a reread. Main candidates seem to be Turin, Arez, Tina, Ithi, and Volke. Hmm I find it interesting how quickly some of the trains have built and dropped in this game so far.

[IzaliaFox]

I have no idea why im a candidate lol. Unvote Vote Nolder

Because my gut is saying to vote Nolder. I have a feeling about him

[Gabriel Kross]

which pokemon gen 1 were known for spinning?

 

Rhydon's horn spins but that's all I can think of...

[Nyanna al'Meara]

Know what this game, or mafia in general is reminding me of?

 

This:

 

 

[IzaliaFox]

I have no clue EP. The only spinning pokemon other than Rhyhorn's horn, that I can think of is in Gen II.

Unless they are talking about a pokemon that used firespin alot....

[Thorum]

I've never seen potential hidden clues being discussed in the main thread (as opposed to the mafia one) .

 

 

lol wat

Indignated?

As in "indignado", or the English word "indignant".

I'm very sorry my third language (English) is so terrible you don't even understand it. I guess you're gonna have to lynch me for that. Or we could continue in Dutch or French?

[Thorum]

btw, the last is not intended seriously .