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Just finished Wise Man's Fear (book 2 of The Kingkiller Chronicles) and I have to say, I really enjoyed both of them (can't wait for the third). I know that it's gonna be a trilogy but the world is so interesting and the hinted at events that already took place can lead to something really epic, so hopefully there will be many more to come.

 

Anyway, I read somewhere that the all three books are already written and will be released 1 per year. But I can't find any info on the release date of the third one (googled it and all). So, are there any die hard fans who know something about this?

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I really like this series as well. Rothfuss is an extremely talented author, we will be waiting a bit for the third book however. He often talks about how much he has grown in his craft and how he is constantly working over what was initially a very rough draft.

 

In terms of the story though the mystery behind the creation wars, stealing of the moon and how the Chandrian and Amyr fit in are all really well done. Can't wait to see what is behind the stone doors, how Kvothe relates to the Lackless family, what Denna's true purpose is, and what he has done to his Alar.

 

If you like rereads Jo Walton has a great one here that has keyed me into some things I missed on my initial go through.

 

http://www.tor.com/features/series/patrick-rothfuss-reread

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I've read the first one and am about halfway through the second. I really enjoy it so far as well. I love the characters he creates and the human interaction is amazing. Hopefully book 3 won't be too far off.

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Anyway, I read somewhere that the all three books are already written and will be released 1 per year. But I can't find any info on the release date of the third one (googled it and all). So, are there any die hard fans who know something about this?

 

Nope that's not true at all. You can go to his website and check up on it, but I had to wait a couple years for the 2nd book to come out, and he's very particular on his writing so it will take awhile.

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I've read the first book but I haven't got a chance to read the second one yet, though I'm hoping to start on it soon, because I really enjoyed the first book.

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I have to admit, i have never found a series i like more than tWoT... until now.

 

What Rothfuss has created has the potential to become something truly unbelievable.

Same here. I still like WOT the best (no one even close) but Rothfuss's universe and story has a potential to be something very, very special indeed.

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Just finished Book 2, A Wise Man's Fear. Seems pretty good. I think I have an idea where this is story is heading but I'd be interested in reading the next book.

 

That said, in this book, it seemed young Kvothe is coming off as too much of a Mary Sue character. Every man wants to be him and every woman wants to bed him for no other reason than he is Kvothe, the Main Character.

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Every man wants to be him and every woman wants to bed him for no other reason than he is Kvothe, the Main Character.

 

Or you know, because he spent all that time with Felurian and still has that touch of fae riding along with him.

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Every man wants to be him and every woman wants to bed him for no other reason than he is Kvothe, the Main Character.

 

Or you know, because he spent all that time with Felurian and still has that touch of fae riding along with him.

 

 

Didn't help much with Denna. He still managed to put his foot in his mouth.

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Every man wants to be him and every woman wants to bed him for no other reason than he is Kvothe, the Main Character.

 

Or you know, because he spent all that time with Felurian and still has that touch of fae riding along with him.

 

 

Didn't help much with Denna. He still managed to put his foot in his mouth.

 

HAHA good call. Can't wait to find out what her actual story is...

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Read the Name of the Wind. Thought is was awesome! Haven't gotten my grubby little hands on wise mans yet. But got some time off coming soon. Can't wait!

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Quite enjoyed both The Name of the Wind and The Wise Man's Fear, having finished the latter only five days ago. Since we've another year to wait for the final WOT volume, I endeavored to start another fantasy series and having been thusfar impressed with Brandon Sanderson's handling of WOT I started reading the first Mistborn novel The Final Empire and have to say, a scant 100 pages in, that Rothfuss liberally borrows from Sanderson's Mistborn world. The use of archanic magic in The Kingkiller Chronicles is almost lifted directly from Mistborn. I'm noticing other, subtle similarities as well.

 

 

That said, Sanderson is also a better writer by far than Rothfuss, whose writing is very informal and casual, which is not always a bad thing but I think Rothfuss is casual to a fault in his word choice and phrasing, constantly repeating the same phrases (his favorite so far seems to be "long moment" he did this for a long moment, she stared at him for a long moment, Kvothe contemplated the usage of the phrase "long moment" for a long moment....

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a scant 100 pages in, that Rothfuss liberally borrows from Sanderson's Mistborn world. The use of archanic magic in The Kingkiller Chronicles is almost lifted directly from Mistborn. I'm noticing other, subtle similarities as well.

 

 

That said, Sanderson is also a better writer by far than Rothfuss, whose writing is very informal and casual, which is not always a bad thing but I think Rothfuss is casual to a fault in his word choice and phrasing, constantly repeating the same phrases (his favorite so far seems to be "long moment" he did this for a long moment, she stared at him for a long moment, Kvothe contemplated the usage of the phrase "long moment" for a long moment....

 

Rothfuss has had this story written for a very long time. Not to mention they were published not all that far apart, so close in fact that Rothfuss would not have had time to read Mistborn and integrate it into his own work. In addition I don't really see the similarities in the two magic systems. Would be interested to hear what you think they are?

 

In terms of the writing, I find the critique odd as blunt, informal and casual are some of the top complaints of Sanderson's handling of the WoT.

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a scant 100 pages in, that Rothfuss liberally borrows from Sanderson's Mistborn world. The use of archanic magic in The Kingkiller Chronicles is almost lifted directly from Mistborn. I'm noticing other, subtle similarities as well.

 

 

That said, Sanderson is also a better writer by far than Rothfuss, whose writing is very informal and casual, which is not always a bad thing but I think Rothfuss is casual to a fault in his word choice and phrasing, constantly repeating the same phrases (his favorite so far seems to be "long moment" he did this for a long moment, she stared at him for a long moment, Kvothe contemplated the usage of the phrase "long moment" for a long moment....

 

Rothfuss has had this story written for a very long time. Not to mention they were published not all that far apart, so close in fact that Rothfuss would not have had time to read Mistborn and integrate it into his own work. In addition I don't really see the similarities in the two magic systems. Would be interested to hear what you think they are?

 

In terms of the writing, I find the critique odd as blunt, informal and casual are some of the top complaints of Sanderson's handling of the WoT.

 

As I stated, I had no more put down The Wise Man's Fear when I picked up the The Final Empire and was barely 100 pages in the latter. That said, I immediately picked up on the fact that sorcery or magic in the Mistborn world was similar to that of Rothfuss in that, to utilize magical abilities one had to draw on a source (like the metals in one's body or an external heat source). In most fantasy novels, at least those I have read, sorcery and and magic is supernatural, the result of some outside, supernatural force (The One Power for instance) so the similarity struck me.

 

As for the writing - Rothfuss' style is very, how to put it, very conversational. Certainly he writes most of the Kingkiller Chronicles from a first person perspective but I find his use of more modern vernacular irritating at times as I do his overuse of certain phraseology. As pointed out, his liberal use of the phrase "long moment" to convey any number of moods, from deep contemplation to utter shock and everything in between can be annoying. There are times in the same sentence where he describes a character doing something for "a long moment" then following that up by doing something else for "a short moment." Assuming moments in his world are 60 seconds long the usage of this over and over and over can be annoying to an uptight, nitpicky reader like myself.

 

As for Sanderson - I will withhold final judgement until I at least finish The Final Empire but his writing reads and feels considerably more sophisticated.

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Just finished Wise Man's Fear (book 2 of The Kingkiller Chronicles) and I have to say, I really enjoyed both of them (can't wait for the third). I know that it's gonna be a trilogy but the world is so interesting and the hinted at events that already took place can lead to something really epic, so hopefully there will be many more to come.

 

Anyway, I read somewhere that the all three books are already written and will be released 1 per year. But I can't find any info on the release date of the third one (googled it and all). So, are there any die hard fans who know something about this?

 

I really don't see how this can be a mere trilogy (unless it's a trilogy in a larger series). Not only does Rothfuss have to catch Kvothe up by about 20 years, but then there is obviously going to be his redemption and return to glory in the present day. I'm not hoping for another Magnus Opum like WOT (Lord help us no), but I'm thinking at least five or six books, maybe seven, so that each book represents a single day in a week of events.

 

BTW - do you find it slightly unbelievable that Chronicler can write ALL of Kvothe's story in the second book in a single day? I tried to add up the number of words per minute he would have to pen, with no mistakes and no breaks (and in the book there are many interludes), and he would have to be cranking out somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 words per minute. Maybe he uses shorthand.

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I assumed that he is taking dictation rather than writing longhand.Otherwise, he would not be able to keep up with Kvothe since speech is faster than handwriting.

 

I really don't see how this can be a mere trilogy

 

I wondered this as well. All I can think is that the 3 days are what will tell Kvothe's story up until "present day".Then there would be follow up books going forward assuming that Kvothe gets the spark back in his step.

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Assuming moments in his world are 60 seconds long the usage of this over and over and over can be annoying to an uptight, nitpicky reader like myself.
Why on earth would you assume that? A moment is not a specific unit of time.

 

 

Just finished Wise Man's Fear (book 2 of The Kingkiller Chronicles) and I have to say, I really enjoyed both of them (can't wait for the third). I know that it's gonna be a trilogy but the world is so interesting and the hinted at events that already took place can lead to something really epic, so hopefully there will be many more to come.

 

Anyway, I read somewhere that the all three books are already written and will be released 1 per year. But I can't find any info on the release date of the third one (googled it and all). So, are there any die hard fans who know something about this?

 

I really don't see how this can be a mere trilogy (unless it's a trilogy in a larger series). Not only does Rothfuss have to catch Kvothe up by about 20 years, but then there is obviously going to be his redemption and return to glory in the present day. I'm not hoping for another Magnus Opum like WOT (Lord help us no), but I'm thinking at least five or six books, maybe seven, so that each book represents a single day in a week of events.

If Kvothe has a redemption and return to glory in the present day, that's a subject for a different series. Rothfuss has already said as much.

 

BTW - do you find it slightly unbelievable that Chronicler can write ALL of Kvothe's story in the second book in a single day? I tried to add up the number of words per minute he would have to pen, with no mistakes and no breaks (and in the book there are many interludes), and he would have to be cranking out somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 words per minute. Maybe he uses shorthand.
He does use shorthand - it says so in the first book. Chapter 7.

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Just finished Wise Man's Fear (book 2 of The Kingkiller Chronicles) and I have to say, I really enjoyed both of them (can't wait for the third). I know that it's gonna be a trilogy but the world is so interesting and the hinted at events that already took place can lead to something really epic, so hopefully there will be many more to come.

 

Anyway, I read somewhere that the all three books are already written and will be released 1 per year. But I can't find any info on the release date of the third one (googled it and all). So, are there any die hard fans who know something about this?

 

I really don't see how this can be a mere trilogy (unless it's a trilogy in a larger series). Not only does Rothfuss have to catch Kvothe up by about 20 years, but then there is obviously going to be his redemption and return to glory in the present day. I'm not hoping for another Magnus Opum like WOT (Lord help us no), but I'm thinking at least five or six books, maybe seven, so that each book represents a single day in a week of events.

If Kvothe has a redemption and return to glory in the present day, that's a subject for a different series. Rothfuss has already said as much.

 

So what about the things happening in present day, the appearance of the scarab and assassin in Book One and other events - I just don't see how this final book can cover 20 years of material when the first two books barely covered as much (and when you take out the first 5-6 years of his life, not even that much) AND resolve the plot issues of present day. Surely these aren't hints of another trilogy, mini teasers of possible books to come down the road. Of course who am I to say what Rothfuss can do? When the next book is released I suppose we will all find out.

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I just don't see how this final book can cover 20 years of material when the first two books barely covered as much (and when you take out the first 5-6 years of his life, not even that much) AND resolve the plot issues of present day.

 

How old do you think Kvothe is?

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I always pictured Kote/Kvothe around 30'ish, myself. So if we are sitting around 17/18 now, that leaves about 10-14 years left to fill.

 

So if you have 2-3 more years at the university..... 2-3 years roaming around playing lute.... 2-3 years to hunt Chandrain and Amyr and kill the king..... then 1-2 years to estabish a remote inn....

 

Rothfuss has already shown that he is willing to "timeskip" like on teh seavoyage to to Vintas where he was attacked by pirates, shipwrecked, robbed, mugged, beaten, and made destitute before reaching his destination. All that happened off screen. So I would expect more timeskips in the future.

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I just don't see how this final book can cover 20 years of material when the first two books barely covered as much (and when you take out the first 5-6 years of his life, not even that much) AND resolve the plot issues of present day.

 

How old do you think Kvothe is?

 

I pictured him close to 40, not quite an old man but not young either.

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I just don't see how this final book can cover 20 years of material when the first two books barely covered as much (and when you take out the first 5-6 years of his life, not even that much) AND resolve the plot issues of present day.

 

How old do you think Kvothe is?

 

I pictured him close to 40, not quite an old man but not young either.

 

I pictured him to be around 25, weathered enough to look like he is in his mid-30's. We aren't told how old he is but the town governor remarks at the beginning of Book 2 how awfully young he is. I'll have to look that up again.

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I've made two attempts at the series. I'm expecting to make at least one more. I may end up never finishing it. I want to like it, but it's missing something for me. Or more to the point, Kvothe just don't interest me at all, so it's missing a center that I want to follow. I'm hoping that I can come to enjoy it, but I suspect that it'll end up like anything by Steven King - no matter how much I want to be able to find the enjoyment in it other people do, it just isn't up my alley.

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