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Nynaeve said she can channel less than half what 10 Aes Sedai with a saangreal can channel. Oh and none of those 10 were particularly weak. And the saangreal in question is the strongest the Tower has. 

Yet when it comes to holding Logain right after she healed him, she worries that she can’t maintain a shield which any 6 Aes Sedai can do without angreal. 

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Just because she thinks it doesn't mean it's true. Character POVs are not objective truths.

 

In addition, we don't really know how the Power stacks up. Two women Linking does not double the amount of power available, it only makes the circle somewhat stronger than a lone channeler. However, being stronger means being able to do more things, things you couldn't do before. That's why angreal and circles are useful.

 

A circle of channelers can easily shield an equal number of unlinked channelers, but if the unlinked channelers attacked the circle from different directions and in different ways, the circle would have a difficult time fending them off, since only one person can control the flows.

 

So we really don't know how much stronger Nynaeve is compared to the other AS, and how much stronger the circle + sa'angreal makes them. I know there is a ranking listed in the BWB, but those values are not necessarily on a linear scale. For example, is Rand, who is rated 100, only 1% stronger than Demandred, who's 99? We really don't know.

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Actually when Reading of Rand shielded I learned something new that changes things vastly.

When Women link, the person leading actually loses the total she can draw. 

Siuan was using women linked, so she only had a fraction of what the ten women could channel independently. That fraction may have been large (9/10) or small (3/10) but it is probably somewhere in between.

But when 6 women shield a man, they don’t link. All 6 independently shield the man, that’s why there are 6 points and if a woman leaves, she ties off her own weave (at one point Rand had three knots holding his shield). 

None of this answers the multiplier effect of the saangreal. 

I agree Nynaeve may have been wrong, but how far off can she be? Also this was before she reached her own max. Say Nynaeve attained her max some point before fighting Moghedien. 

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Now I’m up to the Fight in Rahad, Nynaeve says she needs help, she can’t fight Fallon and Ispan alone... 🤦‍♀️

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In straight up fights, it just not power strength, but knowledge of weaves, ones agilty and how quickly they can form a weave are just as important.  So in a 2 vs 1 fight you need to be fast enough to counter two people at once.  Even if you are stronger than both of them.

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They were linked. Nynaeve could have attacked their connection like she did with

Modhegien. 

With the Amber turtle Elayne can channel 2x what Nynaeve can handle, but she doesn’t mention it being a particularly strong angreal. 

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She also began channeling sometime earlier the previous year.  Fallion and Ispan have decades of experience on her.

 

Go ahead and tell a recruit fresh out of college in an NBA pick to go against Steph Curry and Kobe Bryant.  They'd call for someone too.

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Not sure you can severe a link, but you also have to remember one has to also defend.  She has to defend against a linked pair while trying to attack them.

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Plus we all saw how Moghedien and Nynaeve both struggled with trying to defend and attack. We saw it was tough. Rand had a similar time with Asmodean, and Ba'alzamon as well earlier. 

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Nynaeve was only fighting one of the women.

The other woman was just contributing power.

No Black Ajah sister is in the same league as Moggy.

So either Nynaeve can’t fight Moggy, or she can fight a Black Ajah. 

Sabio, I meant attack the connection to Saidar, not the link between the two women. 

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Nynaeve struggling against the two Black Ajah is most likely the amount of time she spent learning. She spent as much as Egwene and Elayne, and that is not enough against people that have literally easily spent decades training. The story shows many times that strength is not enough against skill. Egwene escaping Moghi's dream trap in FoH shows the worth of her Dreamer training. It also indicatesin other situations in the story that had she been facing Black Ajah trained from the Red, Nynaeve would have feared far worse.

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