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Demos on The Shadow Rising, chapters 46-50


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Chapter 46 Veils

 

Once again we jump back to crew in Tanchico. Not going to lie, at first I was upset that I wasn’t going to read about Rand in the Waste, or Perrin, but there’s some good stuff going on here.

 

First we start off with Egeanin as she is following Gelb around. She’s getting annoyed with his constant failure to bring the right people, and is set on stopping him from grabbing the wrong girls again. It’s then that she notices Elayne or rather Nynaeve, as they are heading straight for the trap. I’m trying to remember, but can’t think of a time when Egeanin would have met either of these two, how would she recognize them?

 

We then get Elayne’s POV as they walk into the trap, and manage to fight off the thugs with the help of Egeanin. One of the men gets up and is about to stab Egeanin, which forces Elayne to channel to save her. Good for the short term, but apparently alerts them to some higher powers. More on that later. They bring Egeanin back to the inn, and talk to her a little. They don’t realize she is Seanchan even though she clearly has the slurring slowed speech. I feel like that would be a dead giveaway, but it’s hard to tell without being in the situation. Egeanin ends up leaving, but promises to come back more to talk. She is very interested in learning about Aes Sedai, and no kidding, she’s Seanchan! She could use all this info to gain the upper hand when her people come back for a second try in taking over.

 

As she leaves, an interesting woman enters. She is clearly very strong in the power, as she is able to do some sort of mind trick on the two girls. Causing them to want to obey her, and forgetting the entire conversation afterword. She asks a lot about their task and such. With as powerful as she is, and her talk of Rand and Be’lal and Ishmael, I would guess she is another Forsaken and Elayne’s slip up in using the power was enough to alert her to their presence. We never get her name, though. Clearly she doesn’t think of the two girls as a threat, but things could get bad for these two quick when she decides to “collect” them later.

We get two final quick POV’s before the chapter ends. Egeanin really doesn’t seem too bad for a Seanchan. Confused seems more like it. Everything she has been taught growing up in Seanchan is turning on its head, and she seems set to get to the bottom of it. Unfortunately the seeker is still around, and has been following her. He now knows the location of Elayne and Nynaeve, and that Egeanin has visited them. There are so many different plots and tricks going on in this city, it’s insane.

 

 

Chapter 47 The Truth of a Viewing

 

This chapter broke my heart, and set this whole series into shambles. Siuan is minding her own business, trying her best to figure out what needs to be done, when Elaida barges in with a bunch of other sisters, and strips her of her position. Then binds her and essentially beats the truth out of her, also stilling her. I feel like this has got to be worse than normal. I mean it sounds like there was no trial, no official anything aside from gathering the bare minimum needed to get the job down. Then carrying out the plan before anyone could stop them, which as we found out later, was the worst thing that could have happened to the Tower. Siuan’s Warder is also stabbed! I’m not allowed to say half the things I want to say about this Elaida woman, but I’m sure you all catch my drift.

 

We then get a quick POV from Min, which only makes matters worse. She sees and hears a ton of fighting, then meets up with Gawyn as he is leading a bunch of younglings as they call themselves. Basically all they know is that Siuan was disposed in the morning, and it’s said that Hammar is attempting to free her. I’ll talk about this in a second, but let’s just say Gawyn and the rest of the young guys went wayyyyy down in my book. Anyway Min and Laras manage to sneak down and free Siuan and Leane as they were locked in the dungeon. They manage to make it outside the Tower, where Gawyn is once again waiting. He recognizes Siuan and despite him clearly wanting to take her head off, he leads them to the gate and allows them to pass through. For as strongly as he felt about the whole situation, causing him to do some stupid stuff earlier, I’m surprised he did this for any reason. It is here we find out that Gawyn killed both Hammar and Coulin. This kid just pisses me off more, though that sounds to be extremely impressive. For all I know, those two sounded like the leaders of the Warder training and most likely some of the best of the best as far as swordsmanship skills. So Gawyn is a complete BAMF now. Lastly, they meet up with Logain and he joins their little party as they escape off the island. Leaving the White Tower completely split. Anyone who was against Elaida now either dead or gone, all over trying to find out what Siuan was up too! Basically it comes down to Elaida just being a complete turd. Things have gone south quickly here. Not to mention what the effects will be with Rand now.

 

More on Gawyn’s actions though. Like what the hell? I’ve been through military training; I’ve gone to boot camp. So in a sense I guess I can kind of understand what Warder training would be like (I'm picturing like Special Forces type), and can relate to what Gawyn and the others went through in their training. Mostly from the fact that you love and respect your trainers, even more so in their case. Yes they are extremely tough on you, and yes at times especially early on, you hate them. They have been their long enough, though, and Gawyn even says he looked as them as friends. Now how they heck are you going to go against them to the point of fighting and killing them. Yes, there may be select scenarios where it could happen, but this was nowhere near that scenarios. Let’s review.

 

So your training, you love and respect these guys. Yes, you‘ve dedicated your life and sword to defending the Tower. Yes you’ll eventually be bonded and you will then pretty much devote your life to that Aes Sedai. As of now, though, all these younglings have is their trainers, who are mentors and friends to them. Word comes that the Amyrlin has been disposed. Shocking news, definitely. You then hear that, from what it sounds like, the majority of your Warder trainers and mentors have decided this is unjust, and they need to break Siuan out. With everything we know about Aes Sedai, you know for a fact these younglings have little knowledge of the comings and goings of the white tower. All they know is they swore to defend it. Yet how do you defend the Tower against the Tower? So they have no emotional ties to the Tower, not like these fully trained Warders would have. Yet, they decide to go AGAINST all these guys, and fight for a White Tower that is splitting down the middle. It’s beyond me, and upsets me even more that they succeeded in killing all their mentors. At worst, I would expect them to just sit out of it, and wait to see what happens. I could be wrong on some of their ties to the Tower, they may know more then I think. Regardless, I think it can be generally agreed upon that these younglings acted completely opposite of what they should have.

 

In the end, I’m not exactly super pissed off at Gawyn, just how the whole situation went down. Gawyn is one bad dude now, though. I can’t tell if I like him more or less now. Time will tell. We never really had a chance to emotional attach to anyone who suffered (that we know of yet) in the event aside from Siuan and them. So I can only really hate Gawyn for doing a stupid thing. He very well may have just snapped from being left in the dark about his sister and Egwene this whole time. So maybe he has an excuse, but the rest of the younglings don’t.

 

 

Chapter 48 An Offer Refused

 

Enough of the rant, back to Rand. Aviendha has continued to teach Rand of some Aiel ways, and of things in the Waste. She also still points out how perfect Elayne is for him every time he looks at Isendre. Not a whole lot really goes on this chapter; aside from we also learned that the Wise Ones have been teaching Aviendha to channel. Keille even offers to sell Isendre to Mat. Kind of funny there, but at least Rhuarc announces that they’ve arrived at Cold Rocks Hold.

 

 

Chapter 49 Cold Rocks Hold

 

Apparently the Aiel have a similar rule like the borderlands in the fact you have to show your face when coming close to the Hold, and also make tons of noise. Odd, but whatever gets the job done I guess. They enter and it seems like a decent size town inside. Rhuarc’s second wife Lian (heck ya) is the roofmistress. Crazy rules, but I guess you have to ask leave to enter her roof. Rhuarc and Heirn go first and are granted permission. Couladin then continues is stupidness and asks like he is a clan chief, and is accepted as a beggar. He deserves it. Anyway Rand goes next and asks in a form that isn’t as high as a chief. Not sure exactly what, but in the end Lian accepts him as asking modestly, and the Car’a’carn is always welcome. Everyone cheers and life is good. The important people go to Lian’s house and as they relax and eat they discuss news and what to do. Most of the chiefs are on their way to the meeting place, but it will be another month before all are there. Rand wants to go earlier, but to do so would risk dishonoring the ones who were not there yet. Moiraine tries to get out of him what his next plans are, and he gets up to try and be alone. Just noticed we never really get a lot from Moiraine in this book so far aside from the fact she is desperately trying to figure out what Rand is up too.

 

 

Chapter 50 Traps

 

As Rand is walking around, he decides to get a gift for Aviendha. He goes to the Maidens house and manages to win over every maiden with his idea for a gift. We find out that they believed he was trying to attract Aviendha’s affection, and the ceremony he went through was their way of approving of him. She obviously gets pissed off about it, but seems to soften up a little and apologize. I’m thinking Rand’s starting to have a crush on her, and with all the Maidens on his side, it’s a good start.

Rand then dreams of her as well as Min and Elayne that night, but they all disappear when Lanfear shows up saying he can’t even be unfaithful to him even in his dreams. That would suck haha. This chick is turning out to be a super freak, and super jealous. Some man then shows up and they both end up vanishing. Not sure who he was, but seems important. Maybe another forsaken otherwise I doubt he could talk to Lanfear like that.

 

Unfortunately no rest for the weary and another attack by Trollocs come in the night. They were simply a distraction for the Draghkar to come in and try to take out Rand. Still don’t know where all these Trollocs are coming from. We then jump to Mat after the battle. We see through his eyes as Moiraine again tries to get Rand to tell her his plan, and he says only if you promise not to try to control him. Her answer isn’t good enough, and both go back to their tents. Rhuarc also sets up more guards to protect Rand during the night. We also find out that the Shaido left, which causes Rand to say it’s time they move too. This time he wants all the warriors to come, not just an honor guard.

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Egeanin doesn't recognize Elayne and Nynaeve, she just spots them because they stand out so well. They're both dressed as high noble women, yet they're walking through the street which is NOT something nobles would EVER do in Tanchico. So they're calling major attention to themselves, and that's how Egeanin spots them.

 

You'll get a lot more from Gawyn about why he did what he did, but basically it comes down to the fact that he BELIEVES that Suian has sent Egwene and Elayne into sever danger, and therefore he has NO loyalty to her. The fact that he doesn't straight out kill her at the end of the chapter is only because she lies to him about where they are and that they're safe. Gawyn decides to back Elaida because he doesn't know how much of a sham the trial was, but he believes that legally Suian has been deposed, and so everyone should back Elaida. The fact that Hammar goes against the ruling party in the Tower makes Hammar a traitor in Gawyn's eyes, so Gawyn is right to kill him and anyone trying to free Suian.

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Egeanin doesn't recognize Elayne and Nynaeve, she just spots them because they stand out so well. They're both dressed as high noble women, yet they're walking through the street which is NOT something nobles would EVER do in Tanchico. So they're calling major attention to themselves, and that's how Egeanin spots them.

 

Yeah I got that, but it sounded like Egeanin recognized one of them personally. More so then they simply stood out in the crowd. So did Egeanin see them in Falme or was it simply the fact that they stood out, and she knew it wasn't one of the Seanchan girls she was looking for?

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She did not see them in Falme, she's never met either of them. Nynaeve kinda looks like one of the sul'dam she's there to hunt named Surine, which is why Gelb attacks them thinking Nynaeve is the sul'dam on his list. Egeanin sees this similarity but notes that Nynaeve is NOT Surine, and goes to help them.

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You have to think about Gawyn's situation for a second. He's been taught to be loyal to the White Tower and that the Tower is more important than a single Aes Sedai.

 

 

He then see's his mentor trying to stage a rebellion. What would you do? Would you fight with your mentor for something you don't believe is right? Or would you fight him to stop him from doing something you believe is wrong?

 

 

 

Gawyn has no knowledge of how Siuan was deposed. Or if it was totally legal. All he knows is that the woman that endangered his sister was deposed by the other Aes Sedai and some of the Warders are staging a revolt.

 

 

What he did was right from his position. It might not have been right if he had all the facts. But he didn't.

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Remember about Gawyn. He swore an oath to be Elayne's adviser, military commander, and bodyguard. Swore it when he was a child and she still in the cradle. His whole life he been groomed for that. And what happens? Suain Lost her for months. And When she finally returns she won't tell him anything and bam she gone again. And Suain lied to him about it. And then add his feelings for Egwene. Can you blame him? Yes he made a huge mistake backing Eladia, but hey he saw something wrong and did something about it. I have always felt I would do the same thing in his situation.

 

Frankly I always been much more pissed off with Galad. He saw the same things wrong as Gawyn and he ran away from his problems. And joining the whitecloaks of all people? Maybe if he was there he could have talked Gawyn and the younglings out of it.

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Chapter 47 was a stunner the first time I read it. I'm really digging your reactions to some of these scenes since they bring back memories of my own first time through. :smile: BTW, On your first reread this chapter will be enlightening for a reason there's no plausible way to guess at currently. :laugh:

 

The Tanchico storyline always seemed to come out of left field for me, even though it had some pretty major characters present. I was always getting into whatever was in the previous chapter and then suddenly we were in Tanchico making me think 'Oh yeah, these people are also doing things. But I wanted to read about these other people.' And then RJ would go back to the other people and I'd think 'but what happens in Tanchico???'.

 

Anyway, keep up the entertaining blog!

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You guys are right, I'm the fool. I basically formed my opinion right off the bat with Gawyn in that chapter and ignored all other reasons of why he could be doing that. Makes sense the way you all have explained it. I just didn't want to think there was any case in which you could justify what Gawyn did :biggrin:

 

But yeah, Sid, Tanchico is way out in left field sometimes. You have these crazy drama building scenes with Perrin and Rand, then all a sudden it jumps to the girls having tea and deciding whether boys are icky or not. Not that dramatic but you get my picture. Tanchico actually just got intense, but more on that in the next blog.

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Frankly I always been much more pissed off with Galad. He saw the same things wrong as Gawyn and he ran away from his problems. And joining the whitecloaks of all people? Maybe if he was there he could have talked Gawyn and the younglings out of it.

 

I completely forgot about Galad, did he leave with the Whitecloaks already? There were hints of him thinking about it, but I can't remember it actually saying he left

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Frankly I always been much more pissed off with Galad. He saw the same things wrong as Gawyn and he ran away from his problems. And joining the whitecloaks of all people? Maybe if he was there he could have talked Gawyn and the younglings out of it.
I completely forgot about Galad, did he leave with the Whitecloaks already? There were hints of him thinking about it, but I can't remember it actually saying he left

 

It hasn't been revealed yet at the point you're at. But yeah, next time we see Galad he's with the Whitecloaks. (so hard to avoid spoilers, isn't it?)

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Hah it's all good, it happens. Besides I think Elaida mentioned him with the whitecloaks, or gone at least, early on in The Fires of Heaven.

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